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Can whoever night fishes at Yateley's Split lake on the split itself please take their 'kin litter home with them!!
One week there was a bag of rubbish in a tree and cans in the hedge...this week it was a bag full of tea bags,sweet wrappers and other assorted junk that I collected.
There has to be more beer cans in the bushes at times than at Boddingtons.....you know who you are!!
PS...you left a net and saucepan behind...they're in the bin too.
Smarts
I think the Bailiffs should make a note of the swims that are occupied by noting the membership number then if litter is left ban them.
Tony
rhornegold
27-02-2001, 08:50
Tony,
Yes I agree, this winter Fishers Green has had the same sort of problem with litter.
I have been picking up and taking home a bag of rubbish every week.
Bob Hornegold
Having fished the Split lake last Saturday I found a saucepan and a mug just below the waterline. Also teabags, milk cartons etc. It seems to be a growing problem!
If anglers caught red handed were banned by managment there wouldn't be a problem. If you thought you was going to loose you RMC permit would you leave litter? There has to be a positive deterent. A bit of finesse must be administered though. If you found a sweet wrapper on the floor that aint so serious as a beer can or a milk carton. You can accidently drop a small piece of paper but not a can or bigger things.
Tony
CB1_chig
27-02-2001, 22:39
Im not sure but does rmc have a ban on tins or glass bottles being taken on to any of there venues??
if not would they think about a ban
as this would help to cut down some of the rubbish as a lot of it is sweet corn tins or luncheon meat tins
yes they do on the south lake no cans of alcohol allowed on this venue.
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andy rooke
Tins and bottles in any form I think are banned from all RMC venues. Maybe if the bailiffs saw anyone with tins or bottles on them could report them but to be honest I don't agree with the banning of tins and bottles as i never leave litter and it's us who have to suffer by not being able to bring tins fishing
Tony
CB1_chig
27-02-2001, 22:53
Hi Tony
I can understand what you are saying but there are a lot of people out there who see fit just to leave there tins in the nearest bush or in the water Tony i know most of us take our rubbish home but as i said before there is still some that are just to LAZY and make every one else suffer
I do see your point... and wish something was done about it maybe Ian could enlighten us with his suggestions to this major problem.
Tony
Smarts
On walking the split or other lakes on that side of complex I have not seen excessive amounts of litter, with the exception of the Pumphouse sometimes Horseshoe.
Do you find litter left in swims regularly and if so which swims, weekends or mid week.
Please point out to bailiffs that litter is being left and that you had to clean the swim. There are rules governing litter culprits if caught will receive at least warning.
I will be around this Saturday, and on a work party Sunday (split bank, Horseshoe side). Do come over if your on site.
Tony
Tony
On Yateley anglers change swims frequently, hence there could have been other anglers in the swim after the bailiff had recorded details and before the next bailiff comes round. An innocent angler could then receive blame for others wrong doing.
Tony
CarponlineEditor
28-02-2001, 09:26
I dont think some of you are getting the point here. Even if you change swims there should be no litter left behind you when you go. The policy of banning people who leave litter is pretty easy really, if there is litter in your swim as you are packing up then you should be banned whether it is yours or not. Once this had been implemented for a while there should be hardly any litter at all. I know it seems hard but it is the only real way to get rid of the problem.
As to banning glass or tins I really dont see the point as if someone is going to leave litter then they are more likely to dump anything that they arent sposed to have on them arent they? It is difficult in one way and that is if the bailiffs cant be there a lot of the time, which they cant as it is impracticle then it is impossible to know who was in which swim last but, if someone is in a swim and it has rubbish in it, then they should be or have picked it up and packed it to take away. Harsh but the only way to do it really.
Andy
Tony,
I'm not down in the same swim regularly enough to comment whether it is a particular swim or area that is a problem.
On the Split lake it has ,of recent,been on the split between the lakes itself and the swims by the islands where the bank has been dug out to provide a swim.
Over all, and I hope I have not made the place sound like a tip, Yateley is one of the cleanest and cared for fishing sites....well managed. Whatever steps taken...there will ALWAYS be the odd few that are not on the same level.
Smarts
Smarts
I have collected rubbish from the dug out swim on the Split adjacent to North Lake before. ItÂ’s the last swim past the islands before reaching the dairy bank.
I assume you refer to the point (Car park Lake side) when you refer to the split between the lakes itself. As you know the point has 5 swims close to each other, hence favourite spot for a group all wishing to have a social while fishing within the rules, itÂ’s a shame some donÂ’t follow all the rules.
In general is it old or fresh rubbish you are finding. The vegetation dies back this time of year often revealing what anglers have dropped or hidden over the previous summer months.
If you find more please let me know.
Tony
Andy
I think the point being made at the time was of catching anglers who drop litter.
DonÂ’t get me wrong, I agree with your comments regarding litter. Other than the odd piece, I have never rarely seen any litter within a reasonable distance (I think rule book specifies 10M) of an angler fishing. In general the anglers clear up the swims they are fishing but sometime one comes across a swim which has been treated as a rubbish tip with not an angler in sight. I always carry a few carrier bags with me for cleaning swims.
With regards to your comment to reprimanding anglers who leave litter in their swim while packing up. Firstly a bailiff is not always there as each angler packs up so no practical. Rule book states that anglers SHALL clear their swim within 10M, so any angler with rubbish in their swim at any time can be either educated, have their ticket clipped, or removed accordingly. Some common sense has to be applied.
There is of course an issue far more important than just making a venue untidy, rats. We all know rubbish will attract rats and the diseases they carry.
As for banning glass and tins. I agree there should be no need to ban them if every angler takes the home, unfortunately they donÂ’t. Often glass bottles are found broken, causing a hazard to both anglers ad wildlife.
Tony
CarponlineEditor
01-03-2001, 09:22
I agree with you that it is very hard to find out who actually leaves the litter. So therefore it is hard to repremand those responsible too.
I also agree about the glass bit too, one lake i fish i was wading and feeling the bottom for mussels, out of around each ten items that i picked up around nine were bits of broken glass so i do know it is a problem. All I meant was that unless you are going to go through peoples bags then you wouldnt know if they had glass and tins unless they were left in a swim or unless you happened to walk round at the right time to catch them so it seems a bit pointless to have such a rule even if it seems to be a good one. How many people have been told off for having tins etc? Not many i bet, simply because it is difficult as the only times you will see them is when you find them after the fact.
Andy
PS. Anyway I would like to say keep up the good work to the bailifs as I think it is sometimes a thankless job.
totally agree with everything on this thread,what really annoys me is the fact that the litter, weighs less than the what it did before.
So if it wasn't a hassle bringing it in why does it suddenly become such a burden once empty?
Or does it miracously gain weight once emptied?lol
I always carry a carrier bag and ALL my litter ,and usually other peoples, goes in this, no hardship whatsoever.
I really get annoyed with litter louts, I once saw a chap throw litter in the street, I just had to say something to him.
There are no excuses put in your bag and TAKE it home.
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paulh
And me too. I had not thought about Paul's "does it get heavier" question before but it's quite right as well as funny. Litter is not only unsightly but has the potential to damage wild life. A canada goose with a severely crippled leg as a result of being cut by discarded monofil line is not a pretty sight...
On the season ticket trout fishery where I am a member the owner has put out as litter bins a few green plastic dustbins, weighted to stop them being blown away. Guess what ? People still leave litter on the banks !
I think leaving litter is a disagreeable British national characteristic - I have noticed on holiday trips to Spain that they seem to be scruffy @!?**s as well in this respect. But other countries don't seem to suffer from it. Personally I'd support harsh measures against litter on fisheries.
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