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If there was only one [freshwater] fish that you could fish for what would it be, APART FROMCARP?
Myself I haven't got a clue, probably chub
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paulh
it would have to be Big Tench mate.
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andy rooke
Ah yes,tench, decisions decisions not so easy to choose now!
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paulh
i just dont know paul there are so many other buetiful species of fish we just dont get rond to fishing for, i would like to know what scorpios favourite species is being an all rounder
cheers,
niff
Catfish would proberbly be a option to me aswell mate.
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andy rooke
I think chub they make a great alturnative to carp or tench.
Alex The Horseshoe hauler.
Mine would be big Perch or Bigg Rudd. If you are talking rivers as well it has to be Barbel
Tony
big bream...colne valley style!
Rivercarper
25-02-2001, 19:50
Big bream tried the Colne valley Bazza.The biggest pit in the valley,total head banger but if there were no carp then I could fish it happily
it would have to be tench.....
daytimedave
25-02-2001, 20:16
TENCH
a beutiful fish.
perch also
i will be hunting these two spieces as part of my future
plans.
can anyone tell me how big the british record Tench, they just seem to be getting bigger every time i hear about them cheers lads.
rooky
andy rooke
Pike!
Great fun to catch especially on lures!
I suppose cats would be pretty good fun because of theyre fight but theyre a bit ugly!!
Anyone tried fly fishing? Great fun, Ive caught trout, Perch and rudd on flys...great fun as well!
How can you call a catfish ugly.... they are beautiful creatures
Tony
cheers ian.
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andy rooke
I think i would go for perch and tench as i love both of them and they were my favourite befoure i caught a carp.
cheers
sam
It would have to barbel a lovley fish. and pound for pound probably a harder fight.
Dave
Why is there no official catfish record? Is this because of the imports scandal?
Cheapskate angler
PeterHudd
26-02-2001, 11:25
Barbel.
P.Hudd
I think Tench or Roach, I miss very early summer mornings float fishing for the old Tinca's.
Probably Chub or Perch both are quality fish.
For me it would have to be Barbel or Chub. Its just a nice way to fish, being on the move all the time.
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I'd have to go for tench, mind you that's all I seem to be catching at the moment whilst carpin' /images/forum/icons/wink.gif
All the best,
<font color=blue>Gaffer</font color=blue>
The hard fighting Barbel, an excellent choice I feel. My best Barbel is only about 3lb 8oz and it fought like a fighting fit double figure carp!! They are stunning fish though, but people are ruining the Barbel scene now using carp rigs and tactics to catch them. Thats what it would be for me though, Barbel or Tench, chub are too easy the greedy bait snatching beasts!!!
though, Barbel or Tench, chub are too easy
You want to try fishing the green for them mate
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They go a little bit bigger than what you've had!!
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Ask neil how easy Chub are... that's why he gone back to the Carp.
Tony
Hey Scorpio nice pic, bit small for a marlin though!
It nearly pulled me in........ I have a pic of a 4lb+ Perch but that was taken ages ago
Tony
do you fish much for carp mate? Nice perch were did you catch it from
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andy rooke
I had 4 Perch between 3 & 4lb 2oz at an Estate Lake in East Grinstead many moon's ago one season. I do fish for Carp but only using the traditional methods, floatfishing and freelining.... also off the top with a fly rod using pet food biscuits and floating casters.
Tony
not a buzzer man then.
sounds good fishing for carp on a fly rod bet you get one hell of a fight.
rooky [smmile]
andy rooke
I use a rod pod & buzzers for the Tench and Bream, depends on where I fish & yes a good scrap on a fly rod especially when they go 20lbs.
Tony
whats your best carp on a fly rod?
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andy rooke
I had a 22lb common a while back... that was the best one I had... I have had loads of doubles... 22lb was bigger than I expected, it only looked 10lb in the water... I knew about it when I hooked it. My arm ached for 3 days after that one /images/forum/icons/smile.gif
Tony
where did you catch it from mate and what on?
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andy rooke
I caught it on a milk based cat biscuit and at a Club Water in Woking, near Send.
Tony
Tony,
have you any tips as to what standard of gear would be required for someone wishing to catch carp with this method, I first saw someone using it about 5 years ago, and thought to myself I would have a go, found a fly reel, but thats as far as it ever got.....Can you suggest a rod /reel and give any suggestions as to what type of fly line/leader/backing is required?
Simon.
beat me to that question simon. lol
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andy rooke
No problem.... any fly reel with an exposed rim is my type of reel as you can control a running fish better, I don't rely on a drag system. Rods.... I use a Farlow ATFM 8/10 reservoir rod, very powerful and a casting rod with a stiff tip action... the reason for this is that it is not easy casting anything with weight in it and a mixer when partially soaked does weigh a lot in comparison to a fly. I use a courtland 444 floatong WF8 line with a braided connector. As for a tippet (leader) I use anything from 6lb to 15lb mono depending on where I am fishing, always Berkley big game. Backing I used the hollow braided backing.
The beauty of using a fly rod is that you can fish with the wind behind you and drift the bait out to the fish.... also if you see a cruising fish lift the whole fly line off the water and recast in a different direction. I use anything from a 10 - 22ft leader depending on bait, wind and location of the fish.
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Tony
Tony,
...sorry if this sounds a bit dumb, but I thought it was the fly line that gives you the casting weight, so if you were using a 22' leader, wouldn't this impede the initial cast unless you had a seriously heavy dog biscuit (like a bonio!!)??
What length is that fly rod 8' or 10', and what b.s. is the fly line??
Simon.
simon i think that you can buy tapered leader to give you the casting weight.
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andy rooke
Simon, I aint got a clue what the actual breaking strain of the fly line is... the leader is the mono you attach to the fly line a 22' leader is long but the longer the leader the further the bait is from the (thick) fly line, the rod is 10ft 6in..... to be honest anything bigger or heavier that a chum mixer would most certainly cause problems casting. It is the actual loading and the weight of the fly line itself that aids the casting. WF8 = weight forward ATFM 8 line which is a heavy line with the majority of the weighted section on the front 1/4 of the length of the line this aids casting as when you aerialise this belly section the thinner part of the flyline is pulled out, I can cast a full line out if I do a good one which is up to 35 yards. Most of my casting is in the 10 - 20 yard distance as I will draw the fish into my range before casting, sometimes this takes 2 to 3 hours to accomplish but when you get them there they normally stay unless someone decides to drop a 4 oz lead in your swim from 150 yds away.
Blimey that is hard to put into words. To sum it up you have the backing, the fly line itself and the leader.
Tony
A tapered leader is solely for presentation for when using delicate flies... the casting weight is in the fly line itself.
Tony
oh what i was lead to belive that you can buy a fly line with a section of it about 8-10 foot was tapered to give it that weight for casting.
thanks tony.
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andy rooke
All fly lines are tapered at the end for presentation and so the fly rols over when casting... there is a line called a double taper opposed to a weight forward, this has a taper at either end an a long heavy middle section, although this is better for presentation, when you are dealing with heavy baits such as mixers you need to punch the bait out so a weight forward is the way to go for fishing bait opposed to a lighter fly.
Tony
cheers tony.
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andy rooke
Thanks Tony, when you running the teach in?!
Dave_Levy
28-02-2001, 20:06
It would have to be catfish had a few last summer and they pull like nothing on earth!
Dave.......
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