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Hi everyone how are we.
reading magazines and such it appears people have different views on the use of bait boats
what are you views on them?
Lofte
Made in England
Personally i hate them. People seem to misuse them and I cant stand them. part of the joy of my fishing is the casting and I love it when my casts land right on the mark. People who use bait boats all the time are missing out on learning the joys of clipping up and so on. Big propar boats are ace and you can learn alot from using a proper boat to row out baits ect.
Bait boats are ok for some but not for me. I love casting and a like it even better when i catch a big fish from my casts. Getting a remote controlled boat to do it defeats the object.
I totally agree with you Paylor,
Cheers
Sam
P.S Lofte, your not going to wind me up over this are you?
i don't like bait boats , the make a angler lazzy and casting suffers , as to big boats ive done that so i suppose im just as bad as the bait boat , you can't do one and slag of the other so i will become a lazzy angler who can't cast, nothing new
Ive never used a bait boat and I don't really want to either partly because it takes some of the skill out of fishing. One good advantage of them for the angler and the fishery owners is that you never have to worry about snapping up in a tree and so there arent loads of lines hanging from all the snags and trees.
daytimedave
11-02-2001, 19:26
i dont think they are a very good image
for our sport!
still sitting on the fence
dtd.............
Its sad to see that on some waters like Waverley that the only way that you have a good chance of a take is if you use a baitboat.
Cheers
Sam
they r bloddy expensive as well 500 quid for a microcat only a plonker would pay that much for one
Lofte
daytimedave
11-02-2001, 19:44
or 500 quids worth of bigpit reels & 3nhalf
super rods
or 500quids worth of boilies etc etc.........
or a season on horton
(do they use them on horton?)
yes them boats are pricey
Rivercarper
11-02-2001, 20:01
My view is that they take the skill out of angling.It takes a long time to perfect long range fishing and time to learn how to fish close to snags and to bait up at range.Anywhere you can't cast to is a safe area for the carp but with a bait boat you can put a bait anywhere.
I would personally ban them and if I want to fish a water where they are used then I'm affaid I won't fish it.
They are used by anglers who have not got the time to learn the skills needed on certain waters and are a short cut to succsess.
CarponlineEditor
11-02-2001, 20:10
I took some video of two chaps using one at the Diana pond in Bushy park of all places. Blimey its only about eighty yards to the middle but I spose they did have a tight baiting pattern.
Andy
Boats also enable, people who are perhaps physically incapable of casting to compete with more able carpers on an equal footing??
I think they are very legitamate in certain circunstances.
i agree a very good point
lofte
i agree but i also think that they are bad for just lazy carpers
sam
I own a boat boat but only use it when im up at Waveney (you really do need them here) The reason behind me using the boat so that i get pefect presentation every time! Most of the carp come from under the trees and the use of a boat enables you to take a baited rig under them.
If used in the correct manor i cant see a problem with them.
Paulm /images/forum/icons/wink.gif
daytimedave
12-02-2001, 13:16
i see on the advert for angling techniques
bait boat it has a video along side it
showing you how to use it
with des taylor
i thought he was a traditionalist!
any thing for a few bob i guess
Don't like em, Never Liked em, Never will like em.
Feels good when an 80+ yard cast goes under the tree on an island and you get a run off it.
If you are fishing a huge water, buy a proper boat and get in it, continue the watercraft education, at least in a dinghy you can see what you are rowing over.
I am so little I could probably fit in a bait boat......
Tony
Hi,
I think baitboats are a brillant thing and are hust another thing to help you get the bait out. if it means you catch more carp then it is good idea. you will all disagree but i have my on views.
James
James
I see where you are coming from, when I was fourteen I really wanted a remote controll boat too!
(only joking, I hope you take that better than alex would have)
if it helps you catch james then good luck use it but on waters with a boat ban ,do you struggle to hit the 100 mark or under that over hanging tree or cast a foot either side of your marker float thats in a 3 foot hole in weed , im lucky i fish waters where i can boat about and its great , you learn alot more from a boat in a hour on a clear water than a year on the bank , but i still fish waters where i have to cast so i don't lose what casting ability i had, as long as you have a happy medium then you should be okay , using one all the time would make you lazzy , what happens at night if you catch one do you use a boat or cast ?
Fair play Ian!! If boats are used correctly and with respect for other anglers around them, i can see no harm in their use, much better than someone drowning in the middle of the night in a boat on a stroke pulling mission!!
Cheers Maximus
sod the bait boat -get in the dingy and do some proper work and none of that fish finder business either-now if that aint blatent cheating i dont know what is.
Strong views which I think depend on peoples approaches to their own fishing and what they want out of it.
Since starting my own business fishing has become more of a release from stress so the emphasis on catching bigger fish every week has dwindled, yes my target this year is for my first 30 but if I had more time and less stress I would probably be angling for a 40.
If I don't catch the 30 I won't mind too much as I know I'll get a few along the way.
I think if I was more focused on fishing for bigger fish and could get out every week my views on bait boats etc would change.
Also I think if I was younger with the hunger I had back then I would want one.
Hi,
just because i use a baitboat doesn't mean that i can't cast.
i have not got one at the moment.
lots of the top anglers use baitboats and still can cast better than we can.
i am not saying you should use it all the time but when it will have its advantages.
James
If people want to use Bait boats it's up to them..... if you regard it as cheating they are only cheating themselves so why let it worry you?
Tony
CarponlineEditor
14-02-2001, 18:30
I am afraid that I cant agree with your observation about casting not as well after a lay off either. I gave up fishing for over three years due to college and having the kids full time but when i came back to fishing I could still drop a bait right out near the island margins so I didnt forget how to cast.
Andy
i would say that bait boats are ok except for the fact that they take ALOT of the skill out of carp fishing
PeterHudd
14-02-2001, 18:35
Where is the skill in controlling a boat out and dumping it 200 yards or under a tree, there isnt. Forget the boat, if you cant reach them with a cast the skill of having to entice them to come out that snag or draw them closer into range.
Peter Hudd
P.Hudd
Rivercarper
14-02-2001, 19:16
I want a remote controll submarine just think of the fun I could have with that.
or a remoat control plane!
you could have the battle of britain with the seagulls and cormorants!
cheers
sam
Neil,
I know of a company that are in the progress of design + Building these. Comes with camera to view bottom.
Paulm /images/forum/icons/wink.gif
Rivercarper
15-02-2001, 05:07
Oh good then we won't even have to feel for the bottom when we cast out.If it goes much further we will have remote controll anglers to fish for us.
All joking aside Neil has hit the nail on the head.
Watercraft is dying!
Even better Ian.....the remote does the decorating and YOU go and bag up!
Smarts
Better still, get a remote control missus and get her to do the decorating!
wonder how many guys here have got a 'dummy' missus in the cupboard?!!.....can't use them for decorating though......just in case they get near the nails etc..!
anyway.....back to the fishing.....
Smarts
Hi,
good point
i think if you use baitboat some of the time when you want to get bait out there is a good idea but when you are just putting out pva bag full then you should cast.
i think if you use a combnation of both then it is best of both worlds. you still can cast well and can still get very accuratey with the boat.
James
Finally got it, leave the real missus at home decorating, buy a couple of servo's and turn the dummy missus (I take it you mean inflatable), into a remote control bait boat, dual purpose when you're on the bank!
Bit off-putting for the fish don't you think? It could also play havoc with those late night 'bites'!
Rivercarper
15-02-2001, 23:49
I doubt anything conected to me would bag anything the way I'm fishing at the moment.Better stick to the decorating.At least if I do that wrong I can repaint it.
That could all change Neil - stick at it.
So are we all agreed that Bait Boats, if used in the 'correct' maner and not abused.....ie..by tacking baits into unsafe areas were carp can be damaged (to far into snags) are ok.!
Paulm /images/forum/icons/wink.gif
Yep, if you want to put a bait 400 yards into the middle of a snag free inland sea when no-one else is around that's fine!
adamfish
20-02-2001, 20:40
who else makes bait boats apart from angling tech and nottingham bait boats??
i am looking to buy/make one
i know that most of you don't agree with them but in the right hands they are a useful tool
Adam
adamfish
20-02-2001, 20:57
this is the only other one i have seen
but i cant find a web site or an address for them??
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