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Tom
25-01-2001, 14:30
Hello,

Does anyone know what 'undisclosed RMC venue' produced that lovely looking 21lb mirror that is in this weeks Anglers Mail (page 21)
I have been having a think about it but I can't think which venue it could be from. It is described as being near Crawley.

Any ideas?
Cheers
Tom

bazza
25-01-2001, 18:12
i think the person who caught it was from crawley, not the rmc venue...

alex
25-01-2001, 18:22
Thats correct but it aslo said the venue was near by.
Alex.

Tom
25-01-2001, 21:24
Thanks Ian

I might have to consider a permit for next year as that it one fish I would love to have my photo taken with!

Cheers
Tom

SAMR
25-01-2001, 21:33
Sounds very interesting
How long is the waiting list ian?
Keeping it real
Sam

sam
26-01-2001, 12:59
can i just mention that the boat pool *is* in fact a cat water, and my dad, the head bailiff, does not really approve of the carp being caught.

not that he is going to stop people fishing for them, its just nice to have a sanctuary for these lovely fish.

if tackling for the carp, be prepared to have at least the minimum b/s line, large unhooking mats, appropriate trace materials, and 5lb tc rods!!

most of the pure cat boys do not regard carp anglers highly, even though they once may have been carpers themselves.

just letting you all know!

;-)

(thread forwarded to my dad!!)

**sam**

scorpio
27-01-2001, 00:19
Sounds a tad clicky to me Sam. Sorry to say mate. I think that the "pleasure" anglers get enough stick from the Carp anglers, now it's the Cat anglers not wanting Carp anglers. I agree with what Ian says. We are all out to catch fish.

I do see your point about using the right tackle though Sam as the Carp anglers are likely to hook a cat sooner or later and to be honest if they are not equiped like you say it could cause a problem. I think that you or your dad should get together with Ian maybe and have some ruling on the tackle to be used.

Tony

Rivercarper
27-01-2001, 03:35
If thats you dads views on the boat pool Sam then I think the boat pool needs a new head Bailiff.Are cat fish anglers some sort of super angler then.

rhornegold
27-01-2001, 07:56
Rivercarper,
No mate thare not, I have fished the boat pool for a number of years and most of the lads on it are ok.
But yes you do get some (it's my water) on it, as you do at all syndicate waters.
Although the cat fishing is hard for most of us on the Boat Pool, the carp are easy and give us cat fishermen something to do during the day.
There are some other species worth a go at, 10+ Tench and Bream, watch out for some very big Eels.

Bob Hornegold

sam
29-01-2001, 10:12
well, seems like ian put me right!

i wanted to get across the risk of pure carp afishing in the boat pool. 12lb line, 10lb hooklinks and 45lb cats dont go too well together. perhaps i phrased it incorrectly. perhaps it should have been "the head bailiff does not appreciate 'undergunned' anglers potentially losing or damaging fish!"

didnt mean to wind anyone up. it *is* cliquey though, i get enough stick from bob, vince and co. its where the term FNG came from.

**sam**

sam
29-01-2001, 11:23
my dads views are his. my comments are mine. just trying to point out the 'risks' of boilie fishing in the boat pool.

not to mention the scourge!!

**sam**

sam
29-01-2001, 12:21
i agree.

i get stick wherever i go though, bailiffs, members, dog walkers.

i dont mean to paint the boat pool and its excellent crew in the wrong light. they are doing an excellent job and its wrong of me to make it seem otherwise.

coat got.

**sam**

scorpio
29-01-2001, 19:24
Ian, I still think that there should be rules on the Catfish holding waters, I agree with what Sam says when he mentions the tackle used. I have noted that no trebles or wire traces but how about a minimum breaking strain of line etc. where Cats reside. Surely the Carp anglers sooner or later re going to hook into a large cat especially if they are using fishmeal?

Tony

jimshelley
29-01-2001, 20:19
hi ian,
i might have a go next year when using that RMC gold card that ian so kindly let me have.my personal best and only catfish ive caught is 36 plus.
tight lines
jim shelley
keeping it real ,"E.C.H.O."

rhornegold
29-01-2001, 20:34
Ian,
I use nothing less than 15lb bs line on all the cat waters I fish, mainly because of the winch rig.
Most of the angler on the Boat pool use similar line strengths, last year Tony a new member fished with boilies all summer because he does not use live bait.
I witnessed two of his fish, a 28lb common and a 26lb cat, he had no trouble at all landing these fish and did better than most of us on the Boat Pool.
Common-sence and suitable tackle must be used when fishing for the hardest fighting fish in Britain.

Bob Hornegold

CarponlineEditor
30-01-2001, 17:00
Can I ask a couple of questions here purely out of interest as I dont fish for cats. Firstly if a carp angler was using say fifteen pound line would that be okay for cats? If a carp angler was using say a size four hook would that be enough to land a cat? Or are there problems with cats biting off carpers hook links because of their sandpapery mouths? Sorry to sound dim here but I just wondered what the differences were.

I can see the obvious need for maybe a bigger net and unhooking mat. Maybe carpers who wish to fish waters that are mainly fished by cat fish anglers should have to use bigger nets and slings if they catch a cat fish.

There must be some kind of compromise that can be made?

Andy

scorpio
30-01-2001, 18:21
I think "ALL WATERS" should accomodate "ALL SPECIES" to accomodate for "ALL ANGLERS". How many carpers get annoyed at catching Bream & Tench. How many Cat anglers get annoyed at catching other species. Sorry lads but if RMC start to target specific species for specific anglers in specific waters it would be a real shame. This is happening to a certain extent but as far as I am concerned an ecosystem should be natural so there fore should hold not only the "introduced species" but the resident british ones as well.

Keep it natural.

Tony

bazza
30-01-2001, 20:11
i *love* catching bream. especially when they are doubles...!

rhornegold
30-01-2001, 21:55
Lick,
I think you are about right, Del said the bigest problem fishing for the carp on the Boat pool were hook lengths.
Cat anglers use 35lb Quicksilver or similar/ 35lb Amnesia and I believe the carp lads used short stiff links of roughly the same bs because of the bite offs and power of the cats in the pool.

Bob Hornegold

sam
31-01-2001, 17:20
bream seem to have less snot when they are that big!

still need a 4/0 to gaff them though!

;-)

**sam**

scorpio
31-01-2001, 18:55
Good point lick but I still think that all RMC waters should be available for all anglers.... maybe a place like Yately where there are a lot of lakes to choose from then maybe a dediacated cat water but for venues with one lake or maybe 2 I still think they should be available for all sorts of coarse angling.

I have had many run in's with Carp anglers in the past and I actually left RMC 3 years ago because of it. I have returned now after seeing the post's that Ian has posted regarding "Angling for all"

Tony