View Full Version : WARNING...Yateley Car Park Lake
Paulharris
25-06-2001, 22:37
Ian, i'm back down at Yateley tomorrow so i will let people know. However do you not think that a ban for the abusive angler would be better than closing it for everyone?
Ian
Due to fishing the North lake I am party to information about what has been going on, have the anglers fishing the Pads lake told you the circumstances as to why they have been asked to keep it down and show some consideration, i.e. driving there cars down to Pole and waiting mans to drop their tackle off, running up and down the bank, jumping on the piles of lime so that they can try and see the Car Park lake fish. I know most of the lads on the syndicate and know that they have only been frustrated by things because of days, even weeks of getting the close in fishing primed, putting baits within feet of the bank, only to have a matey drive down the path, start running around shouting to his mate cos he's seen a forty feeding in the edge and proceding to get as close to it as possible in his day glow shorts and white T-shirt !! The lads have not been hard in their confrontations with the anglers, just fair in putting across the point.
Hope this helps some with the situation.
Keep it real !!! Keep it British !!!!
E.C.H.O
the problems we faced were in the car park away from the water, and i'm sorry but the comments aimed at us were far from fair. they were also far from polite.
i have full sympathy over the car thing - not our week i hasten to add - but there has to be a bit of give and take when you are fishing in the margins next to the main pathway onto the complex. the ONE time we looked into the carpark lake it was with dowdy clothing, no noise being made and no lines (or fish) in the margins. in fact, the guy who *shouted* at us and told us to get away from the lake as we were "spooking the fish" was making far more noise than was necessary. this was over and above his mobile going off a-la trigger happy tv!!!
all i can say is chilly was fishing behind waiting mans one night, fishing the margins, and he actually spent the evening socialising with us over a bottle of wine and a few beers behind pole position. as the night wore on the voices got louder but this wasn't problem for him. another guy, mark, was also more than friendly. it was only ever a small minority (isn't it always?) who seemed to have a problem with pads lake anglers.
the majority of the guys fishing during our week were either rmc bailiffs or fishery development team. we know how to behave on a lake and what courtesy to extend to anglers fishing a water of the car parks calibre. i would imagine that there will be people booked up who may not be as courteous or aware. you have every right to remind anyone about bankside ettiquette, but please be reasonable and don't resort to playground antics.
we are all part of the same club. lets keep it amicable, yeah?
Ian,
Would it not be an idea to make it clear on the initial booking that there is a syndicate water adjacent to the pads lake and under no circumstances are anglers allowed to approach this lake or disturb the anglers on it? This way the Pads lake anglers will have been told about the Syndicate and also to keep the noise down a bit? It must be frustrating for the anglers on the syndicate water as it is an ultra hard fishery and they do pay a fair bit for their ticket? Maybe a few signs put up along that bank would help matters a bit as well?
Another opinion of my own guys... sorry if I am butting in again
Tony
Ian,
I know the peolple fishing the pad lake are paying a lot of money and may not be fishing for that long on there but there needs to be some cooperation from both parties. We had a case at the weekend while my mate was in the End Secret swim on the car park. Three guys on the pads were running up and down the bank non stop, so we asked them politely to not do it. However in the morning they started doing it again, shouting to each other, and legging it up and down the bank. What are you supposed to do? We asked politely and they weren't willing to stop, so can you blame people for perhaps getting a little angry??!!
On the other hand the guy fishing behind me in Pole yesterday, apart from the fact that he had a bivvy that I could park my car in (!! it was massive!!!!), was as good as gold and perfectly reasonable when I had a chat to him and one of his mates. So its the minority on the Pad lake as well who are causing us problems. It works both ways, but something needs to be sorted out!
Friar_Tuck
28-06-2001, 15:51
Bit late now that the Pads has started being developed but the Copse could've been transformed into what Ian is suggesting (a social water) and keep the Car Park/North side completely syndicate. Then the Pads Lake lads could join the other noisy ******s over there /images/forum/icons/wink.gif. Oh, but then there's that cat lake too ...
I'll take the oppertunity to comment Ian.
So exactly when were we running up and down? apart from Alan casually jogging down to the car on Sat evening, for which he got derided for by some sad case who happened to be fishing across into the margins of an access pathway. Did the same bloke go and tell all the anglers who were heading to and from the Pumphouse and Horseshoe lakes the same? And considering we were all packing up to leave on Sunday morning I don't quite see how we were managing to run up and down shouting when we were not even there. I see some artistic licence has been used in an above reply.
When did we back a car down to pole position?
People fishing the Carpark want to realise that money talks no matter how big the fish are and if there is a ever recurring problem between the Pads Lake and the Carpark lake anglers, don't go complaining when "their" lake is full of fish.
Don't get me wrong we met some top blokes fishing there and if are on of them I appologise but you are let down by some and it is these people that you remember.
Bazz do you have anything to add?
there has been a slight bit of exaggeration here. alan did only jog down the bank, and it was only once. it certainly did not warrant the rollocking he received in the carpark from a very irate angler. this guy was fishing from the secret swim by the car park right across to the bank behind pole position.
like i said before, this is the main pathway onto the complex and to expect people to just 'know' where you are fishing to is a bit much. if he had just said "look guys, i am fishing the margins over there could you be aware when using the path" that would have been fine. what was said was a bit harsher.
guys, if you are cheesed that the pads has become more commercial and is attracting anglers you would not consider to be desirable, then fine. you are entitled to an opinion. please do not take it out on the anglers fishing it. they are there on holiday in many instances, taking a week off work to have a good time and catch some lovely fish.
keep it reasonable.
I think this is going to become a problem for RMC Yateley, then again if there is a waiting list those anglers upset with the Pads lake let someone else on the syndicate and try somewhere quieter..... As I don't go to the Pads or Syndicate lake I will shut the .... up I think /images/forum/icons/smile.gif As an outsider I can see both parties points... just a bit of mutual respect is all that is needed.
Tony<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by scorpio on 28/06/01 08:50 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
to be honest tony, i think it is all getting a bit out of hand. on the one hand you have the pads anglers seeing it from their perspective, and on the other hand the car park anglers feel justified in their actions. both groups have their backs up for various reasons and neither seems to be prepared to back down.
this could blow up out of all proportion, which would be a sad day for both lakes and anglers. i don't want to see any areas of the car park lake shut. it doesn't need to happen. we are all adults, and it shouldn't take a great deal of effort, tolerance and understanding from both sides to keep it a pleasurable place to fish.
Rivercarper
30-06-2001, 11:28
Take the carp out of the car park and put some bream in that would stop the problem.
Rivercarper
01-07-2001, 08:53
Yes please boss.I don't mind the pads lake lads fishing behind me cos it will scare those nuisance carp away from my bream baits.I'll help them drink their beer to.Cos I'm nice like that.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Rivercarper on 01/07/01 08:54 AM (server time).</FONT></P>
CarponlineEditor
01-07-2001, 10:47
Sounds like a fine idea, lol. Bream fishing on the Car Park lake, that should pee everyone off, lol
Andy
Rivercarper
01-07-2001, 15:33
Not as much as the Bosses other idea,believe me.
Join both the lakes up and share & share alike...... sorry lads /images/forum/icons/smile.gif
Tony
Hi all,
Although I am a Match lake angler, I have walked the Other side a few times. Pads lake anglers are fishing next to other anglers and should be quiet. I can't abide noise when angling, and as for bright shirts etc. I would have thought that an "etiquette sheet" to got to pads lake lads would help prevent any arguments.
Hippy
PS, I'd build the BBQ area down near the tree lake Ian, it'd be safer!
Johnny_Carp
15-08-2001, 22:34
Looking through old Anglers Mails, i came across a report in Davo's Carpworld that the North and Car Park lakes were going to be joined up??
seeing as its not been done since the report, i take it the plan has been scrapped?
JC
I have the impression you don't like anyone who is not a dedicated carp angler. The Pads lake is there for the social event as well as the fishing... as for bright shirts, I hope you like yellow (or was it orange) and hair gel /images/forum//icons/laugh.gif. Hippy, this isn't a personal thing but quit the moaning matey, if you don't like the noise from the Pads lake fish somewhere else.
Tony
Fished the Pads Lake last week as far as i know there was no problem at all with the car park lads although i do agree with bazza that if your fishing the margins along the main pathway you have to expect people passing also it is very difficult to resist the temptation of peering in the edge of the car park lake when you know what fish are in there !
I have no probs with people who don't fish like I do and aren't dedicated. Indeed, I love a Barbie and beer occassionally. People should be free to enjoy their fishing, but how much trouble is it to wear dull clothes and keep it down in the evenings?
I think what RMC are doing at the yately complex is to cater for all anglers... you have syndicates, carp waters, cats, general fishing lakes and now a social lake. You cant just cater for the one group, I do sympathise with you about the noise but in that case if I wanted peace would fishg somewhere else there is plenty of water there.
Tony
Lads,
Why don't everyone join in one massive social and be done with it, everyone get buckled and then everyone's happy, perfect solution if you ask me.
Bovis
Hooded & 100% English Priest
Fair enough mate. I like the idea of a very mixed complex, but why shouldn't the Pads lads keep it down and dress dull? It wouldn't hurt would it?
And as there are only about a dozen carp to go at in the Car Park, I think the lads are unlikely to move off them!!
MikeLyddon053698
19-08-2001, 21:28
I dont want to sound as if I am defending either one side or the other, but on the subject of bright versus dull clothing, I dont think it makes a huge amount of difference.
It is movement, rather then colour that is the most eyecatching variation in any situation.
I have played paintball now for many years, and although most people wear camouflage clothing within a woodland environment (myself usually included), I have on many occasions worn mega-dayglo colours just for a laugh. I have found that even when people are looking for the opposition, they will often overlook me, whilst a person in full camouflage is spotted only yards from me, due to the fact that they are moving.
Two other very good examples, within fishing, are our very own Ian Welch and Keith Jenkins. I dont think anyone could deny that their lack of dull clothing has in anyway affected their results. I don't want to open a can of worms, and if I am mistaken, I fully apologise in advance, but if people are not catching, they start to look for excuses to blame.
Here's hoping I havn't inadvertantly upset anyone.
Mike.
ps, I totally agree however upon the other aspect in question, if people are running about, then this will undoubtedly spook fish, and would indeed be extremely irritating, especially if you are fishing a such difficult lake as the Car Park.
pps, why oh why dont fishing clubs ban bivvy peg malletts, they must have been invented by PETA specifically for warning fish that anglers are about and preventing them from feeding.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by MikeLyddon053698 on 19/08/01 09:39 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
I am fairly sure that camo gear makes little difference, but prefer to play safe and wear it anyway.
As for mallets, I thought they had been invented for thumping the mindless ******s who use them within 5 miles of me?
Hippy, Keepin it real(tree)
Keepin it real!
Wearing dull clothing may help but as quoted I have crept up to carp before in the margins whith a white T shirt on.... it's all down to movement and stealth. It is annoying though when you are stalking a fish, especially a trout and some idiot goes right up the the bank and say's you caught owt mate....... happens frequently. As for the noise from the Pads Lake, annoying yes... but unfortunately as posted earlier everyone has to be catered for and with a waiting list of years I am sure if it's that annoying someone else would love to fish the Car Park Lake with noise than wait about for a vacancy.
Tony
Go on Lewis mate, stick it to em !!!! Go and use some of that pent up aggression on the deziens of the Car Park, you know you wana !!!!
Keep it real !!! Keep it British !!!!
E.C.H.O
Stop sweating boy, and get the kettle on !!! The fishing at Yateley is damn well hard enough without all of this agro that seems to be coming with it, I say ban everyone except me !!!! no seriously (or was I ??) let's just all get on and smell the flowers, winters around the corner and they will all soon be gone !!! PS Lewis, you owe me a boilie stop, you pinched my last one two years ago and the swan vestas are running out !!
Keep it real !!! Keep it British !!!!
E.C.H.O
Friar_Tuck
24-08-2001, 17:11
Any idea what rules are given to the Pad Lake fishers ? Just that on Tuesday night, there was a dome tent pitched well back from the Pad Lake virtually taking up all of the Car Park swim behind it. It was pointed out to the lads that they were taking up a £400 swim and they agreed to move it if need be. Next morning a CP fisher was squeezed in right behind it...
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