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haveing not fished the match lake before, only fishing the sanhurst pit, i am looking for a lot of information about the water. now i understand that hard earned research will not posted but thijngs like fish size and numbers wiuld be appreciated as well as features and areas that seem to produce. also what features are in the lake is there a lot of bars weed beds etc etc etc
CarponlineEditor
01-01-2001, 12:17
I fished the Match lake a long while ago now but from what I learned I will say that if you walk down the left hand bank past the island there are a few swims that the regulars fished the far margins. Casting tight to the far bank bushes produced some lovely fish. I preffered to fish the far bank itself though and I placed my baits tight under the bushes, this upset some of the locals though as they would turn up late in the day and try to cast across to where i was fishing and I would have to tell them to bog off. lol. I had some lovely fish this way though up to 26lbs which was a fish they call the olympic. There are also some lovely swims that face the back of the island. Fishing tight under these bushes can also produce. Also if you plumb around in the open water you will find some nice clear areas which bait can be spodded onto and then you should do okay that way too. Oh one more thing i thought of if it is still there is that on the right hand side there was a really snaggy area and you could watch some real big fish in there most days even in the winter. You would have to fish baits on the edge tightly locked up though if you fancied this area. Hope that has been a little help.
Andy Dixon
thanks andy for the information, hopefully i should be able to put it to use this season. any way best of luck in the new year and maybe post you some time soon
cheers again mate
justin
Thats some useful information there I'll keep it in mind for when I fish the water next season that snag area sounds like my cup of tea. Cheers mate
Cooperman
02-01-2001, 12:34
The lake has changed very little over the last 10 years, but the stock has, there are now a number of smaller stock fish. Somewhere in the region of 30 - 40 commons between 10lb and 16lb, and about the same number of small mirrors 8lb the 14lb, they are growing, but not as quickly as expected. Add those fish to the origional stock that have survived, they number around 40 fish, with 30 of these being 20lb+, and there are the copse lake fish, you now have around 10 30lb+ fish to go for aswell.
The best way to fish the Match lake is to do your own thing, whatever you are confident in should work, and build from there. The most successful anglers on the Match over the years have been the trend setters rather than the followers!!
Good luck.
Are you going to start there on a spring ticket or in the summer Alex?
In the Summer on a night permit.
I thought you were under 16, if you are then you wont be able to get a night permit.
but by the time the season starts I will be 16 thats why I have not fished the complex before now
If you dont mind fishing the close season there then I suggest you start then as this year it fished great in the spring but a bit slow in the summer.
Thanks for the advice I'll keep it in mind hope to see you all next season.
Just bare in mind that if you fish the snags, make sure you are confident of being able to extract a fish, of any size, from them without damaging them. Use the right tackle, and if you are not 100% confident, don't fish that area. I was talking to a guy last year in the third island swim and asked him how he was getting on. He said very well, but he had lost everything he had hooked!!!!!! That amounted to 12 lost fish in the space of a number of weeks all from the same swim, right tight to a snag on the island. I then found out he was using 10lb line and 12lb braid. Just think though, that is twelve fish swiming around with messed up mouths or carrying rigs just because some geeza was using the wrong tackle, and/or didn't have the common sense to stop fishing that area!! SAVAGE in my opinion. Obviously we all loose fish every now and again (nuff said cooper!!) but just bare that in mind, because there are some hefty snags on that lake, and it would be a shame to see those fish any more damaged than they already might be.
CarponlineEditor
10-01-2001, 17:05
I'll agree with the above post. I love snag fishing but you do have to put yourself out a bit to do it. You cannot leave your rods for a second. You must use at least fifteen pound line and have your set up completely locked up tight. Sometimes this even includes using additional banksticks to stop alarms / pods etc from moving those vital inches. Also make sure that your rods are pointed as directly as they can be to the bait.
It is a very exciting way of fishing for carp but you really must understand that you cannot even go to the loo with your lines in the water. You must hit the take immediately and hold it hard. Not for the faint hearted. I know of at least two anglers that werwe banned from fishing a certain club lake in the past because they were warned about using inadequate tackle in certain swims and they didnt listen.. The bailiffs went round and asked them to wind in, finding one using eight pound line and the other with what is now termed a death rig on. They were both asked to leave and told not to come back.
I have seen a couple of carp which were attached to snags by rigs which were not suitable for snag fishing and I tell you it tuns your stomach.
Anyway if done correctly snag fishing is a brilliant method, just be sensible.
Andy
I completely agree and I wouldnt even consider fishing Yately or any snaggy lake without 15 lb line or more.
Generally people are ok about snags at yately and know what theyre doing, its lakes like trilakes nextdoor to Yately that worry me. Ive seen loads of fish tethered up in the snags there before because of anglers rigs lines etc. The trouble is lakes like that have a lot of inexperienced anglers fishing in snags...not a good combination!
Another thing I must stress is that although if you are fishing locked up a fish cant take line, it can kite on a tight line, so be aware of that.
If you guy's are going to be fishing to snags i'd suggest braid to be used rather than mono. With its lack of streech it gives much better indication and as we all know every second counts when snag fishing.
Its mentioned about inexperienced anglers fishing snags, if this is the case how about taking some time to teach these angler's. Remember we will all benifit in the end.
Paulm
CarponlineEditor
11-01-2001, 19:45
From my experience you try telling some of these chaps how to fish especially if they didnt ask and youd better be able to duck even if they are using the most terrible methods available.
Surley we should all try though.
I met a couple of guys this year using a 'DEATH RIG' and they honestly did't realise what it was they were doing. Once spoken too, they soon changed.
Paulm
Ive tried braid and I must say it is very good for that work. However I still prefer mono, Basically because I find it easier to use, and when you use braid, the lack of stretch can damage the carps mouth a bit. Also braid is dodgy stuff if you do crack off or get snagged so if any of you braid users have this problem please do your best to retrieve it.
Once I saw some bloke who looked like he knew what he was doing reel in his rig only to see a lead core rig with a big bulky swivel connecting it to the mainline! There was no way the lead was going to pass over that.
I asked him politely if he could remove it and told him why but he just told me to f off! Guess he didnt like taking advise from a kid.
Keep it locked up
Mike
A fish will always initially be able to take line, maybe only a small amount. You have to hit and hold immediately you get the run or 15lb line wont make a blind bit of difference.
Tony
Well only stupid people would fish snags who can't handle the fish luckily I am good at snag fishing and I will only fish snags which look safe and as for braid I use a 35lb hook link made from Quicksilver and Fox seires 2xs with the barb crushed off but I like to use flurocarbon you'll find that will cut through snags if it comes to it I'm not a big fan of leadcore when snag fishing I like to put the fish's safty before my need to catch a fish I like to surface fish snags if they are not to far out I find it easier to control them that way but I always use 15lb line for that. So don't you guys worry I know what I'm doing and before you can say Heather the Leather I'll be hauling fish out of the snags.
Alex.... it don't matter what terminal tackle you use the fish can still get snagged, the problem I have seen in the past is people sleeping in their bivvys and then jumping out when they get a run, by then it is too late, if snag fishing you have to sit with those rods full time, I am not saying that you don't but I have cringed before when watching anglers fishing snaggy swims.
Tony
Yeah I always hear people saying about how they fish locked up to the snags at night and it will be ok but by the time you wake up get out of the bag and get on the rod surely that might give the carp time to get in the snags?
But somehow everyone seems to manage strage.
One thing, how many people would be prepared to go out to free a snagged fish, especially in cold conditions?
As far as hooklinks go Id rather the hooklink part than the mainline, at least that way the fish wont be tethered up and trailing the rest of the rig too. I love the XS hooks great pattern and great strength!
Keep on the rods
mike
If your not prepared to go in, you shouldn't be fishing there.
As for fishing in the snags at night - 'suicide'. As mentioned earlier you should be right ontop of the rod waiting for the bite, as night falls pull away from the snags and fish another area. You'll proberly find that the fish will come out of the snags at night anyway. Find an area away from the snag that they will pass when going in and out of it..
It works for me.
Paulm
Well people fishing snags at night unless they fish there all the time should not fish them at night I would never do that and as for my tackle the reason I use a strong hooklink instead a strong mainline is because I never loose a fish in snags if one becomes snaged I will go in after it if I have too but first before causing any stress to the fish I wait and be claim I waited ten minutes for a fish to come out at Twynersh but I never put the rod down I always keep a steady pressure on the fish I then try cutting away the snag but you have to be careful trying this because you can damage the fish's mouth by putting too much pressure on the the line whilst using it to cut away the snag this is where a good strong hooklink comes in but never give the fish line it will only go deeper into the snags ten out of nine times the fish is gone after two minutes and your just pulling on the snag but I try to make sure the fish is gone before attemting to remove the rig from the snag and always be confident if your not the chances are the fish will be come snaged. But like I said I am very good at fishing heavy weed and snags so you don't have to worry to much.
Hi Alex
The way that I see it is that snag fishing has a high potensioal risk to any hooked carp or other species in the vacinity of such an area. No matter what anyones says you can be the best angler in the world but like anyone else if you are not fully alert and siting as close to the rods as you possibly can and hit a take straight away you have potentioal put the fish in a life and death situation (Not Good). Snag fishing can be very productive but why is this? My view is that it is where the carp feel safe or where they go to get away from angling presure so feel confident to feed. If you have ever seen carp swimming in a lake the tend to do so in a group taking a simular path in and out of such areas. So it is only obvious to position your hookbaits along these paths, as carp in the snags will eventuall take this route when they leave or oppositley enter there santuary. Takeing this aproach can also catch carp just as effectively with lessening the odds of becomeing snaged and leaving half of your tackle caught up in the carps mouth or in the trees/branches etc etc etc when trying to position it. Whenever I fish this situation I can feel confident that I have not disturbed any carp from trying to position my hookbait dead where I wanted it. Fishing like this also allows me more time to get on to my rods if a run occurs in the night and with myself haveing maped out the whereabouts of snags I can bring the fish to the net without to much of a polava. However if things do go wroung which is quite possible not only to myself but to anyone else no matter what anyone says I personally am always prepared to go in after a fish that has become snaged no matter what the whether as the thought of leaveing it makes me cringe! But howmany of you out there that say you would, would really be prepared to go in after it not as many I bet!!!!!!!
In conclusion I Feel that unless you have 100 % confidence in fishing snags and can focus your self as to not become distracted you should leave fishing tight to snags well alone. However if you do fish the snags that is fair enough as long as you act appropriatly (Not aimed at you mate) and do not become a King idiout. The most important thing is to have fun and look after the carp as we as individuals are not the only one fishing for them.
Lofte
Keeping it reel
Snag fishing is not for people who are not confident I'm glad you have the same view on that as me most important is carp may feel safe but they know them snags better than any angler this is where the focusing comes in what I do is think of every route the fish takes and postion the bait as close as possiable but I will only have one cast at it if it does not fall tight I leave it and six out of ten times you will still get a take the thing is what I have not said is that the snags I fish are right next to me all I have to do is lower the line in and I'm all set so when I get a take I am straight on it and the fish has to use all of its strength to get into them wearing it out very quickly but I do fish long rang snags there is one bush which I fish which is 60 yards out and you have to get it tight on the shallow part this is when I start surface fishing the snags it is so much safer because when the fish takes you can see where it is heading but no snag fishing is safe and is not for beginners most of the time I fish shallow bays near snags which is what I plan to do at Yateley.
Lookin on the internet I found this information on snag fishing which is very interesting
This is the definitive, no holds-barred guide to snag fishing. Follow Derek Ritchie's expert advice and you'll soon land the carp you hook from snaggy areas....
Snag fishing is something most carp anglers try at some stage. But unfortunately, not everyone does it properly. This is a shame because to be a successful snag angler you must be responsible, use the right tackle with the right rigs, cast to the right spots you can land fish from and always stay close to your set-up as possible.
What follows is my guide to snag fishing. Follow it and not only will you catch more, but the fish will be safer too - which is the most important thing of all.
TACKLE
I prefer a soft rod for snag fishing. There is one major reason for this - the soft action of the rod will allow you to lean heavily on the fish while you're fighting them and minimise the chance of a hook pull, but will also help get them out of the snags.
Put it this way: if you used a rod with too heavy a test curve, especially at close range while snag fishing, you'll find you'll get loads of hook pulls - and that's the last thing anyone needs. The object is to get the fish out, and not to loose them, and soft rods are the best for this.
The reels I use at short range are Shimano Baitrunners; the GT8010 being my favorite. Always switch the Baitrunner off though, so that your in contact any fish as soon as possible and so that the carp can't take any line. Obviously, if you're fishing at long range you're going to have to use bigger reels - like the new Big Baitrunner.
Line choice is also very important. Without fail when ever I am snag fishing I will use a 15lb main line. Also I never use a shock leader whilst fishing in snags. That could be asking for trouble and may give rise to a tethered fish. Leaders are definitely a NO-NO in my book whilst snag fishing.
RIGS
My rigs are fairly simple, but do not consist of strong tackle. They usually are made up of a 1-2oz lead placed on a Korda Lead Clip so it can drop off if necessary; 12 inches of tubing and a 25lb Snake-Bite hook link attached to a Gardner Talon Tip or the superb Mainline Iseama hook.
These hooks are very strong - the size 8 being suitable for most snag fishing instances. The Talon Tips are barbless, I always use barbless when snag fishing as it allows the fish to get away if a line break occurs. This is simply another safety measure.
Tubing is also important. I use it for two reasons - one, to protect the fish during a tough fight and secondly, as extra abrasion resistance should the fish gain a few inches into a snag.
Try not to make your hook links too long. If you do, you could give the fish the head start into the snags. Even a few inches might be enough to loose a fish.
CASTING ACCURATELY
To cast accurately into snags, you'll need to secure your main line on the reel's line clip. This is simply called 'clipping up', and helps prevent you over-casting into snaggy areas.
You'll often find when fishing snags that inches count. Drop it a foot (or even less) short, and the amount of bites could dramatically decrease. This is certainly the case at my local Churchwood Lakes, where a bait placed right in a hole in an over hanging tree gets taken readily - whereas a bait a foot short will get ignored.
To start with, cast short to get your range. Then peel off a couple of yards of line, 'clip up' and recast, see where your lead lands. Keep peeling a few inches of line and 'clip up', then recast until your lead lands dead tight to your chosen feature.
It takes a bit of practice, but 'clipping up' will effectively save you loosing end tackle caught in snags when you cast too far! Another tip, for accurate night casting is to tie some braid or Powergum onto your main line using a stop knot where you want the 'clip up'. That way, if you land a fish in the night and need to recast simply cast into open water until you feel the stop knot the 'clip up' your main where the stop knot is then point your butt of your rod at the snag and cast - sorted!
PLAYING FISH
You must always sit as close to the rods as possible. Too many times I've seen people get runs while snag fishing away from their rods. The result 99 per cent of the time is a lost fish, sometimes lost tackle. If you're going to snag fish, do it responsibly and be close to your gear.
When you get a run, hit it as quickly as possible. Normally you just get a single bleep as the fish can't take any line, so hit a indication you get - then hold tight.
In the initial part of the fight, put the rod tip straight down into the water. This can pay dividends as it keeps the line well below the snag line.
Once away from the snags, you can play them as usual and ease up - but right after you have hooked them, try as hard as you can not to give them an inch of line. Not an inch!
POSITIONING THE RODS
You should fish with rods on single bank sticks when snag fishing. Point the rod tip directly down the line to the snag and use a but grip the rod secure and immoveable.
Your indicator should be as tight as possible to your rod - but take care not to drag your lead back whilst tightening up. The solution is to make the indicators as sensitive as possible, and not too heavy.
You should also insert a monkey climber needle through the bail arm of your reel and skewer it into the ground. This makes your setup rock solid - just another assurance against a fish pulling your rod in!
Your rod tip should be pointing into the air rather than downwards. The pressure exerted by a taking fish will then be placed on the butt of the rod and the butt grip. The rod will not come out of its rest, as it's liable to do if your tip is pointing in a downwards position.
You can snag fish using a rod pod, but make sure you stake down the pod with bungee cords and good quality tent pegs. I also put a storm stick in front of the buzz bar, as an extra security measure.
Last but by no means least, place the butt ring of your rods in front of your alarms. This will, again, help prevent the fish pulling your rod in.
You will be surprised how many people have lost rods through improper snag fishing.
Lofte
Keeping it reel<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by IanWelch on 14/01/01 06:30 PM.</FONT></P>
Extremely informative piece of writing, I will suspect that Ian may want to move this to the masterclass section.... was there any copyright where you got this editorial from mate? Always worth checking.
Tony
I'm not trying to be out of order mate but why are you telling me this? I know every thing about the way I snag fish and I like the way I fish snags I have landed nearly all my twenties from snaggy areas and my current PB carp and tench came from heavey weeded areas where many fish had been lost befor firstly the carp came from Horseshoe which is knowen for its heavey weed I landed 7 out of 8 carp and the one I lost was taken from the surface and was a poor hook hold the tench came from Papercourt which I'm sure you know as it is one of RMC's best kept secrets with its big head of tench heading for British record I took a 8lb 8oz tench from a very weedy spot at Papercourt I never snapped up once and I even fished a muscel bed which I found and missed a fish off of. The next thing you should be aware of I got one of the hardest fighting carp in the specimen at Twynersh out of the snaggy bay I did not land the fish due to a hook pull on the edge of the landing net but it was snagged in 12 feet of water it took me ten minutes to get it out but I did not have to go in after cutting away the snags with the line it came to the suface and I got it out but I will warn you I never use lead clips when snag fishing I always use a free running set up so think about changing them lead clips you may think they are safe but I have seen ones that have been taken off fish where the person has used barbed hooks and the lead had not been ejected. Rember what I said above was not trying to be out of order it was just a question and some facts about fish I have landed in snaggy situations that you might want look at /images/forum/icons/smile.gif
CarponlineEditor
14-01-2001, 20:06
Thats true and sometimes people think that a post is about them as the piece at the top says re: whoever it was last if that is the one which is clicked on.
Andy
Alex calm down mate I am very sorry if you feel that I have aimed this information at you, all I can say is that it was for all to see as like every one else I am not an expert in snag fishing and when i came accross it it interested me. I think that if you was to calm down and read the information I am sure there will be things in there that you did not know or may want to try out (I sure do). Alex like me your young so have the advantage of thoughts of older more experienced anglers which we can use to our advantage. Im not saying you know nothing about snag fishing im merley suggesting that no one knows enough. Although I will aim one thing at you and that is that if you continue to hold the attitude that when people are posting a reply to the board it is aimed at you, you will not become a succesfull or respected angler on any venue in which you fish.
So be lucky catch carp and I hope to see you around yatley in the forthcomeing season.
sorrymate for the missunder standing
Lofte
Keeping it reel
Yeah right geeza!! Just remember Alex that however long somebody has been fishing, they are always learning something new all the time, the beauty of our sport if you ask me! I'm sure any of the top anglers in this country will agree that whenever(if ever!!) you think you know it all, there is always something that happens that changes your mind, and so you learn somemore. If this is happening to the best anglers in the country, just imagine how much we all have still left to learn! I am 21 and have been carp fishing for nearly ten years and am always gagging to learn new stuff, and listen to views, advice, stories etc., that help to broaden you fishing experience. So at 15, just remember you will come into different situations/conditions to those you have already experienced, (especially when you go on to Yateley!), that will need approaches such as the ones people are describing on this post! Just take a bit of advice, and if you don't want to, then don't, but don't get sh***y with the guys who are giving it to you!!!!
Chill!!
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by scorpio on 15/01/01 05:45 PM.</FONT></P>
Cooperman
15-01-2001, 17:01
Alex, I think you need to read what people are trying to say, not what you think they are trying to say. The responses to your post are hints and tips, you DO NOT KNOW IT ALL, Terry Hearn is still learning, and with the type of attitude you seem to have towards other people you won't last long at Yateley, i have seen many people come and go over the years, the best anglers are the ones who took all information in, and made their own picture. They did not turn up with a pre-concieved idea of the way they are going to take a lake apart. I think you not only have some learning to do, but growing up would stand you in good stead for the forthcoming season.
Poor Alex is taking a bit of stick here.... go easy on him, we were all 15 once and some of us would have probably been the same, I think I was worse when it came to not listening and taking note... I think he has learnt from his mistakes.
Go get them Carp Alex and best of luck for the forthconing season mate.
Tony
CarponlineEditor
15-01-2001, 18:34
I agree with you Scorpio, I dont think that Alex did anything wrong though apart from what I said before which was to read into the post that it was him because he was the last one in the list and that is not wrong.
Cheer up Alex, we all have to get thick skinned if we are to survive on the forum, I know better than most. lol
Keep it cheerful,
Andy
Alex, sorry mate but Ill have to go with the others on this, youll become a much better angler if you listen to people's advise sometimes, especially on Yately! Its probably a lot harder than you think.
Im not saying you need to learn how to snag fish and no one else did Im sure you are very good at it but Im sure there is someting you can learn.
Like coop said, the succesful anglers are the ones who will listen and learn more rather than the ones who will think they know everything .
Anyway Im sure you arent like that and it was all a bit of a misunderstanding .
Yappi
I'm real sorry guys I did not mean to up set you but some of these post were aimed at me and if it is one thing I can't stand it is people telling me what to do and what not to do I put twice in the post I ment no offense to him personly but the way the rest of you have reacted I feel ganged up on for somone who gives a lot of support to you guys I don't get much back when I wrote that post I was not angry at all but now I am!!!. So you guys want to take a look at your selfs most of you don't even write on this post you just join in because there is an argument I don't want to fall out with you guys before I have even met you as for info I most of these were not about Yateley they were about snag fishing and how dangerous it can be if it was about the match I would have listened to it but people telling me to be careful is somthing I have heard my hole fishing life and I get off to a very bad start with people who start with me just because I have not fished a complex or a lake before people will start telling me what to do I don't mind if people say "maybe you should try that spot" or "there is a good spot over there" but when a peson does not respect you because you are younger or new to fishing and I'm sure that all of you hate it as well I thought you guys were different but you proved me wrong you are no different to the people I fish with now.
This is not aimed at all of you if you feel it is please feel free to write back using the private messaging service.
PS. I am now thinking about not fishing Yateley unless you guys can prove what I just said wrong GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL!!!/images/forum/icons/frown.gif
I am sorry mate it was not aimed at you at all I sorry if you felt it was./images/forum/icons/smile.gif
I thank you and Scorpio for your support.
Take it easy Alex. It seems that you are in danger of cutting off your nose to spite your face. People are trying to be helpful.
I agree that people should not be too hard on you, but try to accept that posts give information to everyone, some of whom will find the information useful (me included)!
Being young is no crime, but being childish - just look at your last statement again - certainly doesn't do you any favours!
Alex people Lofte was just trying to give some advise, I dont know about you but Id much rather people be friendly and give help to other anglers than just keep what they know to themselves, this forum wouldnt even exist if that was the case.
Nobody was giving you any stick but saying that youll be a more succesful angler if you listen to what other people have to say too and not think you know it all. Even Terry and Jim have benefited from some good advise now and again.
Anyway I do agree with you about because you are young people rush in and automatically think you dont know what you are doing, I had all that cr*p on carp talk with all the le darenth boys giving me stick because I was "Just a Kid what do I know?" I got a bit annoyed, spoke my mind and ended up getting banned. However nobodys like that on here they were just saying you were a bit out of order.
Alex I am dissopointed that you feel that posts on this forum have been aimed at you. Im sure that comments made have not been about your luck of fishing knoledge or age but about the attitude that you intensially whether knowing it or not you show when writting a post. I myself am sixteen and am a very keen angler who is willing to learn new methods techniques and lake history from regluars! Im sure that everyone understands that you feel you are a very successfull angler when fishing snags, but if you look back we are not saying you are unsuccesfful I am saying that whether it be Jim Shell myself Yappi or any other angler we cannot know enough!
I sincerley hope that your plans to move on to the match lake are not cancelled as im sure that once you are their like me we will be able to make some new friends who will guide us and aid us whilst fishing their.
Again i am very sorry if I have upset you in any way and again appoligise if any other have done so which I am know is unintentional!!!!
In conclusion I think that you should take onbaoard information and views from other anglers, and if you are not happy with them dont carry them out!!
anyway must go now so see ya later dude
Lofte
Kepping it REEL
Gents,
Can we keep this thread on topic please, else we'll have no other option than to close it.
You've all been great in helping build this forum and make it what it is, so please don't go and spoil it now !
Thank you.
Bill.
Keep it fishing /images/forum/icons/smile.gif
Rivercarper
16-01-2001, 05:34
Alex you sound very much like me 25 years ago,strong minded and sure of your self which is no bad thing.We can all learn new things and gleam bits of information here and there.If your not sure about fishing Yatley anymore come down in May for a walk round at the Junior Pads lake fish in and say hello.Introduce your self to us and you will be welcomed.
Keep on posting mate you have sparked some lively debate and don't take everything to heart.
From the sounds of it mate, most activity is happening up in the gate area, and is where Little Scissors was caught just before New Year.
It will be interesting to see where the carp get caught when the island snags are removed because a lot of them come out from the islands,
Well guys I have had time to think I will go ahead and fish Yateley so has any one got any good tips they would like to share about the match lake and is there any news about the copse yet as it has not been disscussed for a while.
Alex
As far as the copse goes, forget it, its being stocked with other species.
I suppose a good tip for the match would be to be different from the rest, and never walk past any marginal features in the summer without a look, usually thats where they are.
I dont know if you are used to fishing hard waters, by the sound of it you probably are but I would say it would be a good idea to bring something to keep you from getting bored and giving up (when youre not looking for fish).
I think the most important thing for me there is enjoying the scenery, the tranquility and meeting loads of great people and trying to catch those very special carp.
It sounds like heaven all ready all my fishing life it has been nothing more than a dream to fish Yateley and now I am so close to fishing it. It all still feels like a dream and as for getting board if I do its time for some sleep or to catch up on the latest news with a carp magazine and as far as fish go I can't even start to think what my PB might be like at the end of next season. I just can't wait to be creeping around margins in the morning and then watching the fish swim around under the sun but I guess its not going to be easy work but anything will seem easy after the season I had at Twynersh.
Hope to see you all there.
I tell you what that jungle is addictive. If you havent heard of it there is this part of the lake called the jungle that is closed to fishing because its too snaggy. I never walk past it without stopping for a few minutes just to lovingly stare at those gorgeouse yately monsters swimming around in there like you dont exist. I reckon if you stood there for about an hour or so every day for about a week youd probably see most of the carp in the lake.
Pukka place!
Just hope the match doesnt get too buisy this year.
I think that the newly established Sandhurst Pit will pull some of the anglers on the match over to this magnificant water!
ive already asked this but will ask it again does the match get busy, as this seson will be the first time i will fish it.
Thanks
Lofte
Keeping it REEL
All the Copse lake fish are main players now apart from Crinkle. Then you've got Drop Scale, Thompsons, Scaley, The Roach, Little Scissors, The Zit, and a couple of others that may scrape thirty depending on the time of year etc.. So in all, you've got about 7-10 thirties in there! Plus other pukka fish like the Holiday Fish and ****flaps(!!!!).
Hasn't Crinkle Tail been returned to his friends in the Match after being caught in the Copse?
Smarts
No mate, it was put in the North Lake in December.
Oh well......50/50 and I blew it!!
Cheers,
Smarts
I'll take a look at the jungle it sounds like a nice place if you want to take a break from fishing.
Alex.
what is the going bait ont the match lake?
Anyone
Cheers Lofte
I should think it is Yateley Angling Centre's ASAP but I might be wrong I have heard they like Activ-8 and Assain-8 I was also told that they like robin red.
I'm not sure about those but I think they are right I'm sure someone else will tell you.
Alex.
I reckon a big bunch of maggots in the margins could produce a surprise this time of year.
Tony
I'll have to give that a go some time but for now I think I will get ready to start surface fishing again the one form of fishing I am good at.
Alex.
Yes I reckon maggots will be good there in the warmer mounths and I will definately give them a go. The trouble with maggots is you have to go out of your way to get aroud the small stuff and Im not sure if that is possible at yately. The best way to find out is trial and error.
As far as going baits, I dont really think there is one bait there that completely dominates the water although I know of a few baits that are catching there. Asaps score pretty well, or activ8, last season I used assasin 8 which wasnt bad. Tails up pro liver is doing quite well too.
Obviousely there are a lot of secret squirrels on yately so you never really know whats going in and where, and I know a few people using a certain secret bait thats doing really well over there and theyve had most of the lakes stock between them . I know what theyre using but I promised not to tell!
I think it does pay to keep a few things quiet over there and if you find a little spot keep it to yourself and dont let many people see you putting bait in because theres noting worse than turning up in a pre baited swim to see matey posing for the camera with the pretty one or whatever.
iI HAVENT A CLUE MATE BUT IF ANY OF THE REGULARS WOULD TELL US THERE RESULTS OVER THE SEASON, IM SURE IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED
I would like to know but you have to respect that some of the anglers won't share there information us.
But I'm sure some of the nice guys who write on hear will share with us what they have caught./images/forum/icons/smile.gif
Alex.
I haven't fished it since the Copse lake fish were put in, and by the sounds of it, they seem to come out a little. Basically, the summer I did on there with a couple of weeks break on the Copse, I had about fifteen originals. A good season you are probably looking at that sort of number or more, and now the Copse fish are in there, chances of a thirty are better. This is bearing in mind I had a lot of time, and also the first 20 odd nights I did all I caught was stockies, so you can see that when it kicks off, if you are in the right place then you're laughing.
Cheers simon for you input
Lofte
Cheers mate I need all the info I can get at the moment.
Alex.
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