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reedyrod
11-05-2003, 21:21
hi lads http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.giffirst post for me so be gentle with me http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif.does anyone out there know if there are any photo's around of the pads when they were drained down,would be greatfull for any graphs you might have.have just had a great session on there and would like to understand the place a bit more.can't wait to go back http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. many thanks.
reedy.
we've got a couple knocking about somewhere, probably appear in the next few months as we are going to post up a review the pad lake on me site (link in profile) in the not too distant and may use them in that.
Fisher_Man
13-05-2003, 21:03
That's a damn fine Web Site you got there Flynn, if I might say.
I too am interested in seeing those piccies of the Pads Lake, is there a chance you could mail em to me, please?
Al
cheers f_m, photos not scanned at the mo and knocking round fudgies house, so can't email them but will get them dug out and should be up on the site very shortly.
Cooperman
14-05-2003, 10:45
Small surgharge will have to be paid Flynn, will send you an invoice at the end of the month, for the use of my pictures of the pad lake.
Make sure you mention the fact that i have a 40 minute video of the Cats being stocked into the match and split lake, just for the pussy hunters!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
cats, that's depraved http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OneToner
14-05-2003, 15:51
Coops, you're one sick puppy, or should that be kitten http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I can picture it now (somehow) you and cashie with gimp masks and flat caps writhing around the split beach covered in squid pieces with a match lake moggy, uurrgghh http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
hi to all, new blood here. got a 1st time session booked up on the pads lake in july, any pointers would be much appreciated. can't wait as it goes, but guess i'm gonna have to. cheers guys
Fisher_Man
14-05-2003, 20:16
Steve_O,
I'm in the same boat m8, got the place booked end of July for a day so hoping to pick up tips to help all of us in the party catch.
Then on to the South Lake for a couple of days, http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif should be great. If I get any info, I'll let you know.
Al
OneToner
15-05-2003, 12:13
Do a search for some pointers, loads of info in the archives, the gyst of it is bait light and slack lines, maximise your rods to 2, it will benefit you overall
Fisher_Man
15-05-2003, 18:34
OneToner,
Already done so m8, nothing worse than seeing the same questions time and time again.
Cheers,
Al
OneToner
16-05-2003, 13:04
Post deleted by IanWelch
not to mention [censored] off the cp regulars eh gareth http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif . i had to laugh when sitting in the dugout with a cup of chai watching a big coleman flare up in pole, the coleman had been placed on a picnic table in the middle of the path and poor matty had a bait in the edge, less then 5 yards away. on a serious note does illustrate a lack of thought for anglers around. just say no to mallets and definately picnic tables!!
Really, when we have been on there it allways seems so nice and ridiculously quiet ! cant imagine picnic tables, lordy dordy do you get people on there with big Outbound 5 man orange and purple domes aswell..well i never..
toodle pip.
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Wasnt funny last year when you cracked the same joke......but at least your trying Gov...http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif means ...HA HA.....you can be soooooo sensitive sometimes......
Nevertheless interesting to note you place a doubles/twenties water ahead of the BEST BIG CARP LAKE IN THE COUNTRY.......nothing comes close to the CP......wish you could see it....... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Etiquette runs both ways...........
Point taken.......commercialism rules in the world of business...we have had that discussion recently havnt we......
Limited appeal?!?!?!? - where do you think thousands of carp anglers dream of fishing as the zenith of carp fishing in the UK......THE CARPARK LAKE.....and waters of that ilk.....(not that there is another) http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Etiquette runs both ways..
My point was simply that ettiquette Should go both ways......we are all anglers......http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Takedown
19-05-2003, 10:55
Surely part of ettiquette is knowing when to shut up!?!?!? http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I know........http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Nasty Paul! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
however it is the car park which keeps yateley a household name for carp anglers and creates part of the appeal of the pads. if the same lake were plonked 5 miles down the road then it would just be another prolific day ticket water, albeit a nice one, and whilst popular would probably command less of a premium ("Yateley" is a brand, you even market the dtws with "catch a yateley carp"). whilst only 5% may actually fish lakes like the car park the rest still love to read and dream about it.
Takedown
19-05-2003, 11:43
That's absolutely true, however if you follow this to its natural conclusion, that makes the Car Park a marketing tool. When running any business the primary role of that business is sales, and to achieve those sales you have to use every weapon in your arsenal to stay ahead of your competition. Supermarkets often use the principal of the 'loss leader' - a ridiculously cheap staple item to attract customers 'through the door'. Once those customers are there, the monies spent elsewhere more than compensate for the loss you make on the ‘loss leader’!
RMCA are no different.
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The CP simply aint no marketing tool...........you'll understand if you fish it.....or dreamt of catching the fish for years and years.......(long before ever fishing the venue for many of us)....... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
THe CP rules.......No1 .....YES
seems to be too much agreement going on here. no fun http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Takedown
19-05-2003, 11:57
From a business perspective the CP is just that - a marketing tool in the RMCA arsenal - a bitter pill to swallow, but one that has to be taken none the less!
Sorry Paul - respectfully - you are very WRONG!!!!!!!
Its the place most serious SE carp anglers aspire to fish for they're dream carp......we all have dreams and aspirations dont we?????? maybe not all of us it seems.......http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Its one of the lakes that made Yateley famous.....now its the only one left for serious carp anglers ona complex that drew the best anglers in the country at one point.......do you honestly think the standard of angling is higher or lower now on average compared with 6 - 8 years ago????
I can totally accept RMC needs the money - I can accept the fact the Pads lake is an excellent venue for the majority of anglers (that would be pleased as punch to catch one of the nice twenties that inhavit the pond now!)
But to make out its a 95% to 5% difference - I dont believe that for a millisecond - as i believe most Pad lakers are interested because of the complex's history and big fish pedigree.......
This post is not a critism in any way....just the way it is.....http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
When you threaten to close the Island bank it feels unfair to syndicate members that are there for the year simply because you appear to put the interests of one set of anglers above the another - why not support both lots and understand we are there working hard for the sport we love and the pad lakers are there in transient periods - different approaches - YES - but we both deserve understanding and support.......http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif....
All this was said and covered last year - but you seemed p****ed off - and didnt seem to understand what i meant - i hope i have described it more elloquantly this time http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Takedown
19-05-2003, 12:27
Lewis me old mucka,
The problem is, and the reason that your argument collapses is, it appears, that you are too emotionally attached to the CP and the history. No one is doubting that both are important, and that both co-exist as an entity. However from a business perspective a lake such as the CP can be nothing but a liability WITHOUT the support of the likes of the Pads, South and Sandy. A few simpe sums:
CP Lake
20 members @ £400 pa = £8000pa
Sandhurst/South
20 anglers (at weekends only) @ £20 each for 7 months of the year = £12000
That takes no account of weekday bookings, those fishing 3 rods or full bookings at weekends. As a business man I know which one I'd prefer!
PS I'm not positive about the syndicate membership numbers on the CP but I'm sure you'll put me right!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
If it was that simple - why arnt RMC importing jumbo's then geeze??? why go to all the effort of supporting echo if these values are meaningless???
50 members + gold cards+ bailliffs.......now do your sums again Paul........not that different after all -
What captures stir the imagination of the punters to come to Yateley to start with??? if you answer anything but the history / prestige / big carp captures you are wrong....that is it - the ethos mate.......
so you can agree all you want - but some of us look at the facts from all sides - do you even remember what triggered this discussion - the fact that one set of anglers has sway over another - something that normal people percieve as hypocrytical and injust......but then there is no fairness fishing at the momentit seems http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
As Eric said - the reason the complex is so ppoular is the history of its pedigree...its a very special complex.... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif without that history it would just be another complex of lakes....
As an appendum - see mozzers thread on the carp bored.........thats how people feel about the legendry carpark lake..........
I liken it to a national treasure......REALLY!!!!
Is that wrong - if you think it is then i need to pm you response!!!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif as not suitable language for an open forun http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
cmoncarpcmon
19-05-2003, 14:29
OH! go on then, il ave one http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Sorry i spoke...............
Must be a nightmare having people that feel passionaltly about your waters.......
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Long may i crow on about how great the CP is....cos the day i stop is the day i give up dangling!! full stop!!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Phil_Appleby
19-05-2003, 15:45
Power to your elbow sir...if only I had the time (or the ability!) http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
*tip toes in to make a quiet contribution*
i would class myself as an average angler i have long read and dreamt about those stunning car park fish and hope that one day when i have the time i WILL fish for them! i fished the pads lake for a week last year and am looking forward to a week there in july and for me the draw of the pads is where it is! the thought of being on the banks of the car park and hopefully seeing of those magnificant historical creatures is what draws me to the pads lake. if the lake was 5 mile down the road then i would probablly be of to france for my only weeks fishing in the year.
THanks mate - I think Ian knows how valuable the CP is really - cos it attracts the Pad lake anglers.......:)
Lets just say they have a synergistic relationship eh guv! (I hate jargon but hey!!)
of course he knows! im only saying what i think the vast majority of pads lake anglers think! last year when i fished the pads was the first time i stepped foot on the complex and i was truely stunned by the place since that day i cannot read enough about the place and the more i read the more i wanna know. you never know i might come and pick your brains about the place when i am there in july! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 12:38
Alright Lewis, Ian, all,
As someone who has fished the Pads a couple of times I would say closing that bank would be a good move all round...
First of all you would have no conflicts between the Pads & CP anglers, also after a while the CP fish will get to know that
no anglers fish from that bank and they will in time move in to the area on a more regular basis, if some reeds and pads happened to find there way to the area it would a very good place to place your baits from the ajoining banks and I'm sure the odd barby, torch, loud voice or footstep would be of no concern to the fish... I'm sure you boys can make good use of your bait boats to get in there anyway http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I know that when fishing from that bank you are always aware that there are anglers targeting very large fish and you try your best to be as quiet as a mouse, it does put a bit of a dampner on the social aspect of the Pads at times!
Both the CP & Pads are great lakes, we use the Pads as a place to socialise and catch some nice fish while were at it I enjoy every minute I spend there, would I like to fish the CP.... too right, what a place http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
They're both great lakes and talk of one getting priority over the other seems pretty silly to someone who is basically an outsider looking in..... closing that bank would benifit both fisheries if done right http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Just mi views as someone whose seen both of these pukka lakes http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
So remind me - how would closing off the CP's most consistant big fish swim help the CP.... have you fished there?
Its (frankly http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif) a dreadful idea - all thats needed is a bit of consideration.....no dramatics - just an appreciation of what is going on mate http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
No banks need closing - there are few if any complaints - the whole reason this thread has gone on about it is because one incident occured......ONE incident ...and that was raised on this forum in jest - lets keep things in perspective eh?!? http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
If you want a social on the pads 'pole' aint suitable cos your snag fishing anyway.......how often do i see anglers loose fish cos they are down in waiting mans!!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif Those pads do the unwary!!
Hope this clarrifies some of your less thought out points of arguement.... http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Good luck on the Pads if you come back this year
would certainly make the draw entertaining lew http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif .probably about half of: 50 syndicate members, 20 odd gold carders + honorarys drawing for only 10 swims.
sadly i am in total agreemant with lewis http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif closing off a bank seems to me ridiculous, you want a social on the pads then the point is THE place to have it..respect the anglers on both sides of that walkway and there isnt a problem..we never have any probs..so just don't be up your ar*e or a day ticket noddy and everyones smiling ..YES !?
G
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 13:50
Lets face it Lewis any change to the CP would have you on yoru knees in tears http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If we social we pull our rods in son http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Any change to the Cp at this would be worthless and misjudged - if it aint broke dont..........http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
But hey - you'd know...........http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 13:58
Lats face it I could hardly know as much as you now could I, who could ay http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Does anybody else hear Jane Birkin's "Je Taime" whenever Lewis talks about the CP?
http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif meow!!!
http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif.....................obviously..........
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I love that tune - I whistle it whilst firing out M tech boilies and when i am rubbing http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif my bait boat (swaying my head from side to sside http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
LOL
Miller!
Theres no doubt that it'll be playing when the carp gods hand appears over the CP......moves over your swim and pronounces....."its you" http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif just before Heather make your dream come true.....good luck to you.
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 14:15
Go on close it down Ian!
So we can bring our halogen lights, turntables & beers round and boogie long into the night without falling drunk into the CP.. we can't have that now can we, a lowly pads angler polluting the golden liquid of the CP http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Thought you'd be more worried about the CP polluting your beer?
Anyway - since we added some more bushes in behind poll this whole issue is a bit of a non starter (he mentions after days of verciferous debate http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif LOL!!!!!!!! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 14:25
Dummit, I was avin such fun as well http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
cheshirecarper
20-05-2003, 14:51
Afternoon All
I know youwont know m from Adam, but i just wanted to air my views about this.
Lewis great to speak to you, have read alot about you, a top angler in my eyes !! and an angler who shares the same views as myself, even though i havent fished the CP. it holds a place in English Angling Heritage as a big carp water, for a specific group of anglers, unfortunately i cannot be one but not for the want of trying. ( Missus and baby forbids to move house)
The CP lake is what dreams are made of, a chance to fish for the most well known fish inthe country, Europe even perhaps the world ( or have i gone to far now??)
Anyway, havign only seen pictures, read stories etc..... about the CP lake, its regarded as one of the hardest, finest lakes in the country for carp fishing, the site of an Orange and Green argos tent in The End works just shouldnt happen. The carp in CP should be treated better than that. call me mad, i know, but its not just me that thinks of this, i have spoken to a few anglers in the North West about this, all of us have never fished CP or the North for that matter, but all of us agreed that if we were to fish it, it wouldnt be by day ticket.
You read reports in angling journals, hardback books etc.... and you get a feeling of immense joy reading how peopel have been bivvied up in all weather, for months on end in pursuit of the legendary carp that inhabit the water, i think this makes fishing what it is. and you get a feel for what the CP lake is all about. Some people might dissagree with what i might now have to say, but when someone is fishign a swim for weeks on end knowign he has got fish in there munching on his bait, i think it would be so wrong for all that hard work in locating the fish, preparing the swim only for a noddy angler to come in when he has moved off for a day or so to restock on provisions etc.... and catch a lunker, some might say fair play to me that isnt on !! agree or dissagree the opinion is in your own hands.
However !! aaaahhhh yes now the other side of the story, being a business man so to speak i can see Ian's side of the story, the CP is a huge marketing tool, if i maybe allowed to call it that, and one that would defo bring in the pounds. With Ian being a top business man i can see the way he wants to go, well vaguely, and woudl defo agree that day ticket waters are the way fisherys of the future will be based around. Targeting the commercial angler who wants to "fill his net". Great i am all for that, comign from a match back ground its a sound move and investment, but you cant ignore the Specialist angler, such as Lewis, Pinky, Tenchy etc......... who are making Big Carp fishign what it is today. i mean lookat Terry Hearn he started off at Yateley and waters around tharea, buyign the season tickets etc.... i am not sayign by joining syndicates we are all goign to superstars but, its the deication thats what has got him where he is, and you dont get any more dedicated anglers than the ones that fish the CP, North Wrasybury etc.. you see where i am comign from?? probably not as i prob talking gobbledy gook !!
but ithink you get the picture, Yes to day ticket waters and commercial fisheries, but no to turnignthe CP, North to the day ticket fisheries. I personally would like to see the Copse, Match and Nursery along with the "Over the road lakes " od the CP and North all continuing and inthe Copse, Match and Nursery restored to there former selves.
i dont think i am alone in saying that either, but it doesnt pay my wages does it Ian. anyway i hope you dont see this as adding fuel to the fire, just an opinion, feel free to PM if you want to, as i will probably be able to explainmyself a little bit better that way.
best regards
Cheshire Carp Man
(Richie Gillett) http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
just to clarrify (calm those tattered nerves) - Ian has at no point said he will change the CP into a dayticket water - all that was being posted was related to the rare occassions when pad lakers coulld have been a bit more thoughtfull.....and the subsequent analysis if how much money each is worth (i think WORTH should mean more than a monetary return - in which case the CP is utterely priceless http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
It nice to see others that feel as passionately about the pond as the rest of us nutters! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif...and you are tooo kind to mention me in the same sentence as some truelly great anglers - if only................http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Great to have your feedback mate (especially as it was nioce to me!! lOL) ...and be lucky this season...
Lewis
cheshirecarper
20-05-2003, 15:02
was that too long?? http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Not at all - shows the CP still fires carpanglers imagination and that without it and the other big fish stories of the past the complex would be just another venue......http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Viva la Yateley!!!
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Ian has at no point said he will change the CP into a dayticket water
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What do you think the future holds for the CP?
Sadly those fish won't last forever.
I meant at the moment - with th ecurrent stock.....MILLER http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Bad boy! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
just refering to that post.....oh............[sigh]
I know. It was a genuine question.
Perhaps a new thread would be better, we're all going off topic again.
cheshirecarper
20-05-2003, 15:24
OOOOOPS i was under the impression that all this talk was lookign to change the CP lake into a ticket water for noddy anglers !! my fault !!
but yes Lew, my missus is fed up abotu me rabbiting on about Yateley and the fish in it !! Carp mad i am !! and long to fish the place, have fished the South lake etc... on day ticket as its the only way i can get close to the venue, but not the same knownign that on the other side of the fence is MECCA !!!
Cheshire Carp Man http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Doughnut
20-05-2003, 16:18
OK Lewis,
I'll be sensible if I must http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif being a business man or not Ian knows the CP Lake is the No1 lake in the land not only as a business asset but also for it's fantastic carp history....
I've had my eye on it for years and assumed I'd never get anywhere near it, I've been lucky enough to walk round it twice... it is an awesome lake that gets my stomache doing sommersaults just looking at it......
I hope it never changes, the fish will change one day but hopefully they'll be replaced by fish that are just as special.... if I'm lucky I might get to fish it one day, we'll see ay http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
If your there next weekend Lewis come and see us if not don't worry you'll hear us anyway http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif, many of us Pads Lakers are just trying to get a bit closer we're not all bad, onest http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I know that - you know that - we all know that....http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
We all want - conservation of those jewells http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Gawd bless ya guvnor! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
cheshirecarper
20-05-2003, 16:37
Top post Mr Nut.
lucky you gettign to walk around it, iwouldnt mind sniffing the gates let alone walkign round it.
think you hit the nail on the head though, Ian knows the potential of that lake is still enormous and always will be with the zoo creatures that inhabit the lake, until the sad day comes and they go to the big fish tank in the sky.
does anybody know about the stockign procdure to compensate this event? Lewis you might know?
Cheshire Carp man http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Untill they are all gone any stocking would be highly risky......
Hopefully this will not happen for years yet......(now get on your knees and pray!!!!)
Will be in the lap of the management when that sad day happens....
OneToner
20-05-2003, 17:10
Ian, apologies if my post offended (the deleted one), it was a 'tongue in cheek' comment and I hoped it would be taken that way.
By the way the VAST majority of Pad Lakers are very respectfull of the surroundings they are fishing in.
There's good and bad in all including some syndicate members, who are educated by the others. Once educated by the other members we are very lucky with the atmosphere and respect for others and the surroundings, every now and again there is behaviour (same as any pond) which is unacceptable - surely that can be recognised.
The main point is RESPECT, and that goes for all parties, there is room enough for all of us
Once again, please accept my apologies.
Gareth (with his tail between his legs)
cheshirecarper
20-05-2003, 17:13
Risky??
even with the same strain of carp thats already in there?
or is there no such operation running with the stock of new fishes?
thats a complete new thread in its self so i will stop.
Cheshire Carp Man
I think we all agree that the Car Park has become a legendary water, however I can't help but feel that there is no sense of mystery that started me carp fishing all those years ago before the days where every puddle in England is surrounded by Bivvies. (prepares to get shot down in flames http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif).
I'm not denying the quality of the fish or the skill involved in catching them but personally I would much prefer a water where there is a sense of the unknown rather than when (if) you get a take you are asking 'which one is it'.
Goes back to the early days of Redmire when they knew there were big fish but not how big (the King?).
Don't know if such waters exist anymore, all big carp seem to have names these days and a hundred lines trying to catch them.
The Car Park is marketing genious where the lake has been allowed to develop into what it is today and has become a brand in its own right. It allows anglers to fish almost exclusively for known big fish. However just not for me - I wouldn't stand a chance anyway http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OneToner
21-05-2003, 10:15
Hmmm, not too many ponds left to be discovered.
I get you point though, it'd be nice to wind the clock back 25 years wouldn't it, loads of low stocked pits to discover.
If you do do a bit of pioneering though, you don't just turn up at a pond and start fishing in the anticipation that you may get a ru8n from a big kipper. most anglers would go on a number of sorties (especially if ex forces eh rif) find the fish and have an idea of what they are fishing for before wetting a line. I do get your point, but I'm afraid those pioneering days are all but gone.
I've got one on the back burner mate. Lovely little 40 acre pit, rarely fished, certainly not for the carp. 15 year old report of a 36lb common, seen a fully scaled in there 35+. My mate said he saw a big mirror 40+. One hell of a walk though, no access for the motor, no boats allowed, 1000s of bloody bird watchers,
Saving it for a rainy day http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
There are still a few out there http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OneToner
21-05-2003, 11:43
Hence the wording 'all but gone' as opposed to 'all gone' http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif, not long now singy, got that tingly gut feeling yet, (for the coming season, not for doubling up with Lewis this weekend in his oval http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif)
Phil_Appleby
24-05-2003, 09:53
Yes they are out there. I know of a water that holds potential record eels and pike to 30lb but if you guest it you're liable to get your [censored] full of lead shot! The landowner is insane, one day he'll say yeah you can fish, the next when you are fishing he'll forget who the hell you are...! http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Another of the pits down Ringwood way is closed to angling but holds more big fish than all the local big fish waters put together. Never be fishable though. http://www.rmcangling.co.uk/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Markoncarp
30-05-2003, 12:27
Everyones going to hate me for saying it but I thought you could walk around the WHOLE of the Yateley complex for the price of a birdwatchers permit? £5 innit?
Get a key and everything...
And the car park is a lovely lake.... I just find it hard to see why its always PADS lake people being inconsiderate and not Car Park lake people not realising that if people are on the Pads then they are going to have a bit of a social...
Anyway.... hope you enjoy your walk around Cheshire carper....
OneToner
30-05-2003, 12:41
I think its £8. If you re read my post at the top of the page you'll see that we agree, respect is mutual.
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