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what does your carp tackle compose of? Makes etc
CarponlineEditor
29-12-2000, 16:45
Normally I use my 11 foot Shimano one and three quarter rods, shimano 4500 baitrunners, 8lb gr60, merlin hooklinks, super specialist size four hooks. Thats about it really. I have a lot of different alrms but at the moment I use my fox s's. I think they are s's anyhow. lol Oh and my bobbins are made from little kids toys with bath sink plug chains screwed into the bottoms and a line clip attached to the tops. I also have tinsel all round the buzzer bars at the moment but this will come off soon. Nothing expensive, nothing special really.
You name it, Ive got it.
5 Blue Delkims + reciever,4 Blue swingers, 5 Eclipes Rods, 13ft 3 1/4lb t.c. (one being used as a marker rod)
Emblems. Full stainless set up. etc..etc..etc..
Looks the NUTS.
Oh yeah, and me lucky charm always goes with me - a little alien.
Anybody else have a lucky charm.
Paulm
CarponlineEditor
29-12-2000, 18:52
Blimey I have never met a tackle tart before lol Just kidding. My bobbins are not really a charm but a bit of fun. They are see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil. You can see them on my site in the questions and answers.
so let me get this straight...your set up *looks* the NUTS? that full stainless setup helps you put fish on the bank, does it? just by checking your profile i now know you fish abbots and fishers green, so if i was a thieving scrote and wanted to get my hands on some top dollar carp gear, where would i go? there is enough tackle theft as it is, without shouting about all the riches that could be had in your swim!
i don't wish to be negative, but this thread seems to be to be little more than an excuse to boost ego, perhaps convincing others to spend unnecessary cash to 'keep up with the joneses'.
instead of buying new stainless steel gear to replace your existing black steel gear which does exactly the same job, how about using it for more (quality) bait? or put it towards the syndicate ticket you always wanted?
CarponlineEditor
29-12-2000, 19:09
That is a very good point about tackle thefts!! Maybe we shouldnt say what tackle we are using. Not that anyone would nick mine if they saw it lol Well maybe the bobbins lol
With the talk of Insurance, Second Chance Charity had a good deal for this. Got to their website at: http://www.second-chance.org.uk and get their contact details.... Doug Hulme will put you in touch with the bloke who does it...
Bill.
Cheers bill I was looking to insure my takle.
It is a lot cheaper to insure your fishing tackle with your household contents insurance, I do with an all risks policy and have £3000 worth on insurance for about £24 a year.
Tony
Cheap stuff, old stuff, and my fly rod...... I am not a serious carp angler and don't give a monkeys what my gear is or looks like..... as long as I catch fish
Tony
rhornegold
29-12-2000, 20:22
Good point, tackle seems to be very important to the modern carp angler.
When I fished solely for carp most of the tackle we used was made by ourselves, not only was it satisfying but it gave us an edge.
But everything has to be instant these days including carp anglers.
Thats why I dont do a lot of it any more.
Bob Hornegold
Hi all, on the subject of thefts, has anyone tried one of those remote personal alarm PIR thingies from 'The Tackle Box' which you can mount on a bankstick?
I've never seen anyone using one of them, do they work?
HNY,
Gaffer.
CarponlineEditor
29-12-2000, 22:55
I saw a lad down at Johnsons using one. And this is true he had it on a bankstick because he had his tackle stolen a couple of weeks before. The next morning we went to see him and he had a black eye and they had knicked his alarm as well as his gear. We didnt hear a thing all night. But on a couple of occasions we saw a white van driving around and apparently it was them, five geezers with baseball bats.
Bazza.
Yeah maybe i am what you guys call a tackle tart, and at times, yes it does put extra fish on the bank. (It gives me more options). Such as my rods, having the extra T.C helps me punch a bait 130+yrds, to where the fish are on accasions.
Im not saying that 'all' the tackle i own will help me put fish on the bank, it just increases my options, and the more options that i have - the more chance i have.
Paulm
i take your point about certain tackle giving you more options, and i am not having a dig at you specifically. i am using what you said to highlight a point.
there is a very definite sub-culture within angling (more specifically carp angling) where to be seen with the right gear is more important than being able to use it. 13ft 3.5lb test rods are very good if you have a sound casting technique. they are worthless if your casting ability cannot get a bait further than 70 yards. i use 12ft 2.5lb rods. i can put a bait around the 100yd mark (with a tail wind!). i saw a bait put 120+yds with my rods by someone who had a much better casting technique than me. i have seen someone using 2.75lb rods and not be able to hit 80 yds...! can 3.5lb rods be fished at a rod length confidently?
the more we want the shiney, sparkley gear that holds promises of monster fish, the more expensive it will get. does this help young anglers first starting out? probably not. as an example, the next time you visit your tackle shop pick up a packet of fox/esp/nash hooks and then get a packet of drennan super specialists. can you honestly tell me that the fox/esp/nash hooks are a full £2 better in quality?
the words 'tackle tart' are just lining other peoples pockets...
bazza hope you had a good one ,i got frozen in
my rods and reels ive had for 7 years they include 2 12ft 2lb one i broke this year and replacede it other than that nothing new why change a good combination i no my set ups
There is only one pice of imporatant tackle and thats end tackle with out it you won't catch any thing I admit i like to show off with some of my tackle you know the sort of stuff like making sure your swingers are level stuff like that but today it cost me a thirty plus fish down at Tynhersh I was to worried about making sure my swinger was straight on the other rod that I forgot to sharpen my hook because the fish have a habit of spitting out hook baits before swinger has even moved and the rod did'nt have an anti eject rig on the fish came out of the ice swirld on the bait picked it up and befor I could hit it was gone so this goes to prove that stainless takle does not put more fish on the bank if I would have used a normal steel pod I would probable not have bothered straighting the swinger and I would have probable sharpened the hook and I could of had my first thirty on the bank instead of going home early. Stainless does not make a difference mabey in the long term it might save you replaceing it but thats about all. Remember to use sharp hooks I know I will.
Alex.
Why sharpen your hooks!
Most hooks today are chemicial sharpened, and there is no way that you will be able to get it as sharp as new.
After every fish i catch or if i feel the hook is not 100% sharp, it will be replaced with a new one.
Its a confidance thing.
Is it realy worth risking that next fish on a hook youv'e sharpened yourself.!!
Paulm
I have a zziplex tounament beach caster which I can punch a 6oz weight 220yds /images/forum/icons/smile.gif but that is from a beach, the style of casting is so important, I can cast a 2oz feeder 130yds no problem, 3.5 test curve rods I would say is excessive. Just a thought I have caught more Carp from less than 20yds from the bank. Oh yes, don't forget the shock leaders boys, I know you know your stuff, you need at least 10lbs per ounce.... a 4 ounce lead needs a 40lb shock leader to be 100% safe.
Tony
Sharpen a hook? I use a new hook every time I fish, if I suspect a hook is dodgy I put a new one on, I am sure that you can't sharpen a chemically sharpened hook with a stone sufficiantly to be confident.
Tony
But with the new Fox series 2xs they are not as sharp as a series 1 or 2 but I have had problems with these hooks when snag fishing so I use a Fox hook sharpener a mate of mine used to sharpen his hooks arter every fish be it a catfish or a carp and his hooks never let him down and replacing the hook after every session I know I said you should always make sure your end tackle is perfect but that takes the mick and is costly when using Fox hooks and at Horseshoe I had 4 fish on the same hook before it even started to go blunt three of the fish were twenties including my current personal best of 28lb so think about that. Does it not worry you that every time you catch a fish on a rig and you then go and change that rig which a fish has just taken meaning the rig is perfect becase I don't think you would ever see me doing that. Besides I over came the problem by switching to a Fox series 5 (hooks don't come much sharper).
Sorry Alex but I don't rate fox hooks, you pay for the name with them, as for rigs, I make up untold rigs and maybe I am fortunate to be able to change my hooks frequently, the point is (excuse the pun) you cannot sharpen a chemically sharpened hook to be as efficiant as one out of the box as new.
Tony
I'm sorry but I have to disagree I don't know if you have tried sharping hooks but you can get them nearly as sharp as the day you brought them and I don't know why you don't like Fox hooks you don't only pay for the name if you take a look at the new series 2xs they are great snag fishing hooks but on the water I fish the fish are too wise and spit the bait out before the hook can get a good hold on the bottom lip so I make them nice and sharp so they hook straight away.
Rivercarper
02-01-2001, 21:33
Nothing wrong with my low water salmon hooks apart from having to put a blob of solder on them before use.
I used to sharpen my hooks but not since chemically sharpened hooks arrived, I sharpen my sea hooks when beach casting but that is because they are a lot larger and blunt on every cast on the gravel. There is no way you could manually sharpen a hook as well as a chemically sharpened hook straight out of the packet.
Tony
Last week I was shown a way of testing how sharp hooks are that I'd never seen before (I've lead a sheltered life you see!) and that was to scratch the point down your thumb-nail.
A hook, straight from the packet (Drennan-Super specialist-I think!), skidded down my thumb-nail.
After a very gentle sharpen and the same test, it dug into my nail!...and that was a new hook.
It suprised me....any thoughts?
Gaffer.
P.S. I've gone off fox after straightening a few!
You got a bad batch of hooks, there is one point to remember, the sharper the hook the easier it is to blunt. I test my hooks with the nail treatment and if a hook slips like you mention the whole pack goes back. I generally use barbless or microbarb hooks this is because the hooking rate is much higher and they are better to the fish and those hooks to me are real sharp.
Tony
Thought i'd mention another little trick for checking your hooks, especially flat spots. Get a pair of binnoculas and look through them the wrong way round (the way that makes everything so far away)- then hold your hook really close to the other end. What this does is magnifies it, you can actualy see tiny scratches on the hook. Try it, i check my hooks all the time
Paulm
Thats an intresing way of checking your hooks.
Well I have never had a bad packet of Drennen hooks but with Fox you will get bad hooks thats why I always use a shapener but I did not say you can get them as sharp as the day you brought them you have miss quoted me there but I don't think it is worth throwing away a good hook when you can just sharpen it as long as you do it porperly you will have a perfectly good hook.
Even if i was given a box full of Fox hooks I'd give them back. They've got to be the most unreliable hooks on the market today. Made cheaply from cheap material, it's the name game again because it's Fox it sells.
Personally I have 150% confidence in Terry Eustace Penetrator 2 in size 8 and 6's, will never let you down. Second choice is either the Gardner Talon's or the ESP Raptors. Penetrators every time for me though.
Keep it real
Cash
I am with you Alex.... it is all confidence with me... if I find a hook even looks blunt or not as I expect it. The again I don't spend much on tackle only bits and bobs /images/forum/icons/smile.gif we all have out little unique things we do when fishing and mine just happens to be hooks and line...... as long as you are catching Alex do what you think is best mate /images/forum/icons/smile.gif
Tony
esp hooks ,stiff riggers and raptors ,big fish adventures stingers very good and drennan supers ,fox made to brake
Am I the only one who defends Fox here the hooks are reliable how many people buy ESP because Terry Hearn uses them I used them hooks for surface fishing and they were rubbish where as a Fox series 2 I got take after take I had five fish on one hook and one of them was a 23lb mirror but I deffently do not buy for the name they are just the ideal hook for all my types of fishing. Cheers for the support Tony.
When surface fishing the lighter the hook you can get away with the better, maybe the fox hooks are lighter than the others, the weight of the hook will unaturaly pull the bait lower into the surface film than heavier hooks so the more natural the presentation the more takes you will get. If a hook gets straightened it can only be the anglers fault or bad luck due to the fish getting snagged unless the hooks are real rubbish. I have landed a 16lb carp on a size 18 hook before and the hook didn't straighten.... something to think about.
Tony
I also have landed a 16lb mirror on a size 18 hook and to go on top of that I had five other fish on the same hook a guy opposite me had two twenties and four doubles on a size 18 now thats some good fishing.
Alex
I was fishing at Berry Hill, Taplow, last summer when the chap opposite had two Raptors straighten on him. He was so disgusted that he walked round to show me the evidence.
It quite put me off raptors, although having seen the recent article in Big Carp magazine I may well try the stiff riggers! I have yended to use Fox up to now simply because my local shop (King's) had them in barbless - necessary for fishing at Royal Berks.
Don't be put off of the stiff rigger hooks they are great from what I have heard there is only one other hook I can't stand and thats Talon Tips after I brought a packet only to find four out of ten hooks were bad.
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