dynamite scent trail liquid attractants

[commonhunter86]

has anyone used this ? recomend using it ? does it stay on the deadbait long ? what colour seems to work best ?

[Tim1]

Try it, but its probably just a rip off, make a bottle of attractor up yourself if u can and fish it against that crap, like cod liver oil + winterised pilchard oil + small amount of solar squid and oct + a colour if your in clear water maybe, cost a few bob but thats life.

[The Doc]

Tried various oils over the years but not convinced they make any difference. You can't beat a really fresh mackerel or herring.

[Tim1]

Sometimes it can make a big difference, watched em feed on baits when thay are not actively feeding and it blew my mind lots of times, worth experimenting without a doubt imo.

[lyndon]

I have tried the Dynamite stuff and I am not that convinced. It does stain the bait well and that lasts a good while, but when you paint the bait before casting it looks really great, but when you see the bait hit the water it leaves a large red oil slick, which is attractive I suppse, but I think little of the attractor stays on the bait. When you want to recast which I do quite often esp when leap frogging my rods its hard to make the stuff stick to a wet bait.

I have gone back to good old injecting of natural fish oils. I have toyed with injecting the dynamite stuff but its too lumpy.

[Tim1]

Slap it on baits then freeze, colour should stay on bait better, and inject it in to bait for a lasting flavour 2. done well on nash big strawberry when things are dead on a few lakes, try it.

[Floaters]

I have tried the Dynamite stuff and I am not that convinced. It does stain the bait well and that lasts a good while, but when you paint the bait before casting it looks really great, but when you see the bait hit the water it leaves a large red oil slick, which is attractive I suppse, but I think little of the attractor stays on the bait. When you want to recast which I do quite often esp when leap frogging my rods its hard to make the stuff stick to a wet bait.

I have gone back to good old injecting of natural fish oils. I have toyed with injecting the dynamite stuff but its too lumpy.

I've not used the Dynamite stuff, instead prefering something similar which i tinker with and has given me great results and caught all my bigger fish:norty:

[mr_penetrator]

Gimmick, best oils are the 500ml winterised nutrabaits ones, work a treat and great value.

[The_Saint]

my oiled up baits always outfish the non oiled up fish.
done well on lamprey oil, smelt oil and ming oil over the years

[Floaters]

my oiled up baits always outfish the non oiled up fish.
done well on lamprey oil, smelt oil and ming oil over the years

I'll second those flavours:thumbs:

i dont use lamprey oil though, i prefer to use the real deal!

[brown bottle]

on a winters dusk whatever happened too a suspended roach

[mr_penetrator]

on a winters dusk whatever happened too a suspended roach

and that relates to attractants in what way?

[singy]

I have always prefered to add movement to my deadbaits rather than attractants, and my approach to pike fishing is more often than not a very mobile one. i don't want to leave too much attractant in every swim I fish.

are we in danger of turning pike fishing into a sit it out and wait game?

[lyndon]

I have always prefered to add movement to my deadbaits rather than attractants, and my approach to pike fishing is more often than not a very mobile one. i don't want to leave too much attractant in every swim I fish.

are we in danger of turning pike fishing into a sit it out and wait game?

I think we're a bit late for that bus singy. The rules and regs of Carp fishing have well and truley entered the world of Piking already.

[Panander]

are we in danger of turning pike fishing into a sit it out and wait game?

Many waters are like that. Most waters I fish and have fished since I started pike fishing over 20 years ago have some really clearly defined feeding periods. Outside of these periods I have experimented heavily with all sorts of things but the pike (jacks excepted often) still feed mainly in those periods.

This is over a variety of waters from small and large southern gravelpits, estate lakes and the big glacials of the Lakes (where I lived for many years) and Scotland (mainly the Highlands).

Fishing for big pike is a waiting game. There is no magic ingredient. Yes oils and flags may help but you can never know for sure whether or not you would have caught that fish anyway.

Experimentation is always worthwhile as you may learn something new and that is always good but the old maxim still rings true whatever .... the right bait in the right place at the right time. This means waiting usually.

[mr_penetrator]

I'd always listened to the "twitch a dead" every now and then theory but was generally too lazy when sat behind three rods.

Then I found a gin clear lake where they often lay up close in and started stalking them. The majority of fish would ignore a still bait a foot off their nose (for up to two hours)............until I twitched it, oh how I love that strike!

Goes without saying that I make a point of it nowadays :D

[singy]

not sure i agree 100% with that. Sure you can wait until the pike wants to feed, but i've lost count of the times I have induced a pike to take outside of their usual feeding pattern. lost times how i can be in a swim for an hour with no signs, yet move the bait, or reposition it will induce a take. i syill think movement (and sound) can be very important when targeting predators.

[mr_penetrator]

That's my point Paul, I've found with a lot of fish that if it's in front of their nose and they're not having it, you can force the issue

[singy]

I was replying to Panander, agree with you 100% :)

[mr_penetrator]

Lol, I'm in a feisty mood. I might dust the cork off and grace you with my presence at the Stoney pike fish in yet.

[singy]

Well that is a little different when the lake is full of pike anglers. maybe in such a scenario the smell would be advantageous. though I'll still be recasting and moving baits ever half hour or so :)

[Panander]

I was replying to Panander

Experiences vary ... (of course ;) )

Most of my time piking has been spent fishing glacials and twitching is not an option in most places due to the nature of the places - steep rocky drop offs etc. Also I always try to fish to features if they are available. Pike love drop offs - so I will always attempt to put a bait along a drop off - popping up sometimes. Twitching in such a position will move it out of place pretty quickly. On a flattish bottomed water then it is a good tactic of course.

Now I live in Lincolnshire I am fishing gravelpits for the pike and I still fish to features. I have to admit that my experiences here are limited up till now because I haven't been here that long. That said, the exact same tactics I have used for years in other waters once again proved to be the most fruitful. As the water I spent most of last winter on was new to me I experimented a lot on one rod, fishing the other two to features. The feeding spells soon became apparent and these produced the bigger fish to the features I look for using big baits. I try to always set out my stall for larger fish by using big baits (although to be honest sometimes large baits don't always work on some waters) fished to features I know pike like. Baits fished in an experimental fashion produced no more fish outside of the feeding periods and those fish that did come outside the general feeding periods were usually jacks. I know that sounds like I am stating that pike will only feed at certain times but this is not the case - I'm not that daft. However what I have found is that most pike come during feeding spells, whatever those times are and whatever triggers them (but thats another conversation) and certainly the larger pike are more likely to come during those periods. Outside of those periods you are more likely to connect with jacks - probably for a good reason also as when the larger fish are active the jacks are potential prey. Large pike spend much of the day just lying up. I agree that recasting or some other disturbance might "wake" them up but by the same token disturbance might also spook them.

Experiences vary though from water to water and the only way to suss out a water is to experiment - which probably shoots any argument I have put forward down anyway. :bonk:

At the end of the day though there are no rules - so whatever works for you .......

[Floaters]

Experiences vary ... (of course ;) )

Most of my time piking has been spent fishing glacials and twitching is not an option in most places due to the nature of the places - steep rocky drop offs etc. Also I always try to fish to features if they are available. Pike love drop offs - so I will always attempt to put a bait along a drop off - popping up sometimes. Twitching in such a position will move it out of place pretty quickly. On a flattish bottomed water then it is a good tactic of course.

Now I live in Lincolnshire I am fishing gravelpits for the pike and I still fish to features. I have to admit that my experiences here are limited up till now because I haven't been here that long. That said, the exact same tactics I have used for years in other waters once again proved to be the most fruitful. As the water I spent most of last winter on was new to me I experimented a lot on one rod, fishing the other two to features. The feeding spells soon became apparent and these produced the bigger fish to the features I look for using big baits. I try to always set out my stall for larger fish by using big baits (although to be honest sometimes large baits don't always work on some waters) fished to features I know pike like. Baits fished in an experimental fashion produced no more fish outside of the feeding periods and those fish that did come outside the general feeding periods were usually jacks. I know that sounds like I am stating that pike will only feed at certain times but this is not the case - I'm not that daft. However what I have found is that most pike come during feeding spells, whatever those times are and whatever triggers them (but thats another conversation) and certainly the larger pike are more likely to come during those periods. Outside of those periods you are more likely to connect with jacks - probably for a good reason also as when the larger fish are active the jacks are potential prey. Large pike spend much of the day just lying up. I agree that recasting or some other disturbance might "wake" them up but by the same token disturbance might also spook them.

Experiences vary though from water to water and the only way to suss out a water is to experiment - which probably shoots any argument I have put forward down anyway. :bonk:

At the end of the day though there are no rules - so whatever works for you .......

One water i fish, produces between a certain time and another water its a different time. Outside these times and jacks are regularly caught;)



Panander, do you fish any of the Lincs drains in winter?

[Panander]

One water i fish, produces between a certain time and another water its a different time. Outside these times and jacks are regularly caught;)



Panander, do you fish any of the Lincs drains in winter?

Times vary on waters I find but only one water I have fished regularly has not had pretty rigid feeding times and that was Bassenthwaite in the Lakes.

I haven't fished any of the drains yet although I intend to.
(Recovering from a replacement knee op at the moment ... I am hoping to be able to get back to the bank in October)

[Floaters]

Times vary on waters I find but only one water I have fished regularly has not had pretty rigid feeding times and that was Bassenthwaite in the Lakes.

I haven't fished any of the drains yet although I intend to.
(Recovering from a replacement knee op at the moment ... I am hoping to be able to get back to the bank in October)

I fish the Boston Drains. If your gonna be in this area then let me and i'll give you some info fella:thumbs:

[Panander]

I fish the Boston Drains. If your gonna be in this area then let me and i'll give you some info fella:thumbs:

Boston? AAAARRRGGHHHH! (Thats where I had my knee done ---- the pain!)

Thanks .... I may well be in touch

[Floaters]

Nurses aren't much to look at to take the pain away either:bonk: :bonk:

[Floaters]

pm m8:thumbs:

[Panander]

To get back on topic ... ;) ...... I can see the point of moving baits and recasting on waters like drains as I think you would need to actually find the fish rather than the features. It is not a type of water I have any experience of.

[Floaters]

To get back on topic ... ;) ...... I can see the point of moving baits and recasting on waters like drains as I think you would need to actually find the fish rather than the features. It is not a type of water I have any experience of.

A little twitch here and a little there has worked well for me on the drains. At one time i had a static approach and found that this would also provoke a response after a bait had been in the water a couple of hours.

[singy]

A little twitch here and a little there has worked well for me on the drains. At one time i had a static approach and found that this would also provoke a response after a bait had been in the water a couple of hours.

I don't know if the drains are the same as the gravel pits I fish, but i've watched fish just look at a deadbait for hours before they either take it or do the off.

[Floaters]

I don't know if the drains are the same as the gravel pits I fish, but i've watched fish just look at a deadbait for hours before they either take it or do the off.

In my experience, movement of a bait will induce a pike to strike. I've had a pike sat staring at a meal for 2 hours. When it thought its meal was getting away, it struck!