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Paul_the_Bailiff
10-03-2009, 13:50
In today's Angling Times.
Biggest non-trout water Pike ever recorded in the UK.
42lber has just gone into DDAPS Sutton along with a couple of others around the same size from the netting at Lullingston castle....
Mahoooooosive crocs
Amazing fish even if it was a trouty fish, but that's something else to have come from a coarse fishing venue. Any pics Paul.
Paul_the_Bailiff
10-03-2009, 14:00
42lber has just gone into DDAPS Sutton along with a couple of others around the same size from the netting at Lullingston castle....
Mahoooooosive crocs
Lets just hope that there are enough prey fish to sustain them. Otherwise they will go down hill very quickly. I don't think Pike should ever be moved, they need a certain set of circumstances to grow that big, mostly neglect.
From the Norfolk Broads of all places...
Paul_the_Bailiff
10-03-2009, 14:02
Amazing fish even if it was a trouty fish, but that's something else to have come from a coarse fishing venue. Any pics Paul.
Front cover of the AT, oh and there's a 42 in there as well. Mind blowing. This fish is as important as Chris Yates' capture of his Redmire 50.
Jungle drums have been making noise for a month, im glad its all out in the open just a shame it wasnt next week so she would have some peace and quiet.
Congrats to the captor and to those that had her and kept quiet ;)
Lets just hope that there are enough prey fish to sustain them. Otherwise they will go down hill very quickly. I don't think Pike should ever be moved, they need a certain set of circumstances to grow that big, mostly neglect.
Mate i said exactly the same thing when i heard, not just that fact, but the water quality is'nt in the same leauge in their new home as where they have come from. Im not a DDAPS member, not right IMO. Apparently there was another one that was put back into lully that would threaten the british record
The fully thats gone in at upper 30 has been caught already in its new home i hear.
yes i see that in the paper people
you just never know whats in the rivers and themes thats why i like fishing them:nuts:
Danny Rob
10-03-2009, 17:31
TC Carper - i also heard about the netting at Lullingstone lakes for DDAPS.Along with the pike some very large carp!
TC Carper - i also heard about the netting at Lullingstone lakes for DDAPS.Along with the pike some very large carp!
I know fella, i got txted a picture of the biggest carp
Danny Rob
10-03-2009, 17:44
Is it is a big as i heard ? i was told there was 2 in that weight bracket and that DDAPS was just about to be the most popular lake in the southeast when it gets out?
Is it is a big as i heard ? i was told there was 2 in that weight bracket and that DDAPS was just about to be the most popular lake in the southeast when it gets out?
Nah mate, not as big as the pike, nice fish though, very heavily scaled, was a few similar i was told....
Apparently the biggest one like the pike stayed in there, jumped over the side of the net apparently....
I was'nt there, just been told so the info is 2nd hand like, got a pic on my phone of what i was told was the biggest carp
curlybob
10-03-2009, 21:15
42lber has just gone into DDAPS Sutton along with a couple of others around the same size from the netting at Lullingston castle....
Mahoooooosive crocs
Club water..
live 2 mins from Lullingstone castle knew there
were lumps in there,
well in ddaps.
I know the family Hart dykes who own it will
venture down there for the full sp.
sounds a bit crule 2 me, lets see if thay loose 15lb in weight and then pop up dead, hope im wrong
curlybob
10-03-2009, 21:34
sounds a bit crule 2 me, lets see if thay loose 15lb in weight and then pop up dead, hope im wrong
There is that concern mate as lullingstone is a trout water
of late.
Lea Fisher
10-03-2009, 21:54
Sorry to be naive but what does DDAPS stand for?
Dartford & District Angling & Preservation Society........
Im pretty sure thats it anyway
45lb+ from the Broads??
Is this right? Blimey. Is there a pic anywhere online?
Paul_the_Bailiff
11-03-2009, 09:38
Dean, try the AT website.
45lb+ from the Broads??
Is this right? Blimey. Is there a pic anywhere online?
Havnt seen any online yet, AT keep clamping down on scanned images.
Looks impressive in the paper though, could go bigger to be honest.
SurreyCarper
11-03-2009, 09:44
In today's Angling Times.
Biggest non-trout water Pike ever recorded in the UK.
What a fish, absolutely superb, and just to think many top anglers had written the Broads off as a big pike venue.
42lber has just gone into DDAPS Sutton along with a couple of others around the same size from the netting at Lullingston castle....
Thats outrageous, IMHO pike should never be moved from venue to venue except in the most extreme situations (ie. backfilling) a fish of that size being moved from a trout water will get caught time and again and there is a very good chance that it will die ... fact !!!
Thats outrageous, IMHO pike should never be moved from venue to venue except in the most extreme situations (ie. backfilling) a fish of that size being moved from a trout water will get caught time and again and there is a very good chance that it will die ... fact !!!
Very true. Seen this happen before.
ANybody got a link for Angling Times google is sending me round the houses!
Nah mate, not as big as the pike, nice fish though, very heavily scaled, was a few similar i was told....
Apparently the biggest one like the pike stayed in there, jumped over the side of the net apparently....
I was'nt there, just been told so the info is 2nd hand like, got a pic on my phone of what i was told was the biggest carp
mark gary showed the picture of the fully scaled the other day nice fish it will soon become elusive in sutton
as for the pike as you say 42lb not ideal to be moving this great fish but it might be better than the other option i have been told that any pike that get landed in it's old home get killed by the trout angler's and then given to the eagle heights bird sanctury to feed the birds while im fully aware landing this massive fish on a 2oz fly rod would have been some fine angling indeed
the fish would not have been returned to the water it's obviously grown very big eating all their trout hopefully its new diet will be the massive shoals of bream that sutton holds
the one that got away ? i too heard that this was a pike of massive proportions and that it would threaten the british record perhaps this willey old fish will escape capture and live out its life as a mythical monster gorgeing on trout and smashing up trout angler's :) lets hope so
A trout fed 42 will be low to mid 30s in weeks in a normal lake.
Even a well stocked lake wont have to same stocking levels as a trout water and the pike will have to do alot more effort instead of eating 2lb trout when it feels like it.
Isnt there a lot of Bream in Sutton
That could be handy, But agree not ideal.
That Pike in the Broads got fat on something!
A trout fed 42 will be low to mid 30s in weeks in a normal lake.
Even a well stocked lake wont have to same stocking levels as a trout water and the pike will have to do alot more effort instead of eating 2lb trout when it feels like it.
i agree it is not an ideal sittuation but the owners of the trout fisherie obviously want the pike out of their water i think they missed an ideal money making oppertunity here they could of organised a couple of piking weekends charged a fortune each year once pike anglers became aware of the stamp of fish it held a 40+ pike has to be a fish of a life time to most pike anglers let alone the big old girl thats still in there
Isnt there a lot of Bream in Sutton
That could be handy, But agree not ideal.
That Pike in the Broads got fat on something!
dean sorry this thread has gone a littie off topic mate
but in answer to your question ddaps sutton has a massive head of bream
I would rather eat trout anyday :)
Pics not on AT website, when does At come out? Today?
Isnt there a lot of Bream in Sutton
That could be handy, But agree not ideal.
That Pike in the Broads got fat on something!
The Thrune fish got big on time, its been knocking around for a few years, slowly getting bigger.
Trout fish get big quick, and fat. They are never "that" long or old.
Trout fish are the simmos of the Pike world :)
Thats outrageous, IMHO pike should never be moved from venue to venue except in the most extreme situations (ie. backfilling) a fish of that size being moved from a trout water will get caught time and again and there is a very good chance that it will die ... fact !!!
Do what? Go back & read the thread AGAIN!!!! I aint a member, I DONT agree with it, but then again, what would you rather see? It netted and fed to the local bird sanctuary?????
I put up a post about WHAT I HAD HEARD, thats all.... Jeez some of you need to learn to read!!!!!!
Had PMs & people whinging on here...... Ring the Fing club & moan at them, its F all to do with me .... FACT!!!!!!!!
mark gary showed the picture of the fully scaled the other day nice fish it will soon become elusive in sutton
as for the pike as you say 42lb not ideal to be moving this great fish but it might be better than the other option i have been told that any pike that get landed in it's old home get killed by the trout angler's and then given to the eagle heights bird sanctury to feed the birds while im fully aware landing this massive fish on a 2oz fly rod would have been some fine angling indeed
the fish would not have been returned to the water it's obviously grown very big eating all their trout hopefully its new diet will be the massive shoals of bream that sutton holds
the one that got away ? i too heard that this was a pike of massive proportions and that it would threaten the british record perhaps this willey old fish will escape capture and live out its life as a mythical monster gorgeing on trout and smashing up trout angler's :) lets hope so
Big old bellies on them eh mate? Them carp have been gorging on somethig
Big old bellies on them eh mate? Them carp have been gorging on somethig
very true mark lovely old scaley beasts but very gutty :)
Anything ever materalise with DDAPS & the LB fish?
That fullys been out already John i heard, ovb feeding fine in its new home then
Anything ever materalise with DDAPS & the LB fish?
Nah mate, them fish were robbed before DDAPS even thought about getting them
most of the LB fish have long gone there are still some in there i was watching a few in the upper layer's a few weeks ago only to mid 20's
the 40lb common and at least 1 of the mid 30 linears among others have a new home about a quarter of a mile away :(
Paul_the_Bailiff
11-03-2009, 12:23
And they could charge £1.50 each for trout livelys.
That fullys been out already John i heard, ovb feeding fine in its new home then
yeah i heard the same mark lets hope it does well in there mark it might drop a few pound swimming around it's new home at least it will have the close season to get used to the place :)
And they could charge £1.50 each for trout livelys.
i can see your not one to miss a trick paul :lol:
most of the LB fish have long gone there are still some in there i was watching a few in the upper layer's a few weeks ago only to mid 20's
the 40lb common and at least 1 of the mid 30 linears among others have a new home about a quarter of a mile away :(
ARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH dont mention the linear John, it makes me cry.....
I angled for that fish for a couple of seasons, caught his little sidekick the 8lb common twice when i had them both going in the edge, was fishing for it for 6 months after it had already been taken........
That fish has a hoodo on me & im now likely to NEVER catch it LOL
ARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH dont mention the linear John, it makes me cry.....
I angled for that fish for a couple of seasons, caught his little sidekick the 8lb common twice when i had them both going in the edge, was fishing for it for 6 months after it had already been taken........
That fish has a hoodo on me & im now likely to NEVER catch it LOL
i have been told that there were actually 2 near identical linears the only differance was one had only 1 barbule (spelling) the other had both not sure if thats true but the fella seemed pretty sure of it
i have been told that there were actually 2 near identical linears the only differance was one had only 1 barbule (spelling) the other had both not sure if thats true but the fella seemed pretty sure of it
Back in the day mate there were 4, they were all moved over from the back lake when the back lake fish were being wholesale robbed for lakes over the Dartford tunnel. The common never intrested me, mates had it, i'd caught plenty of big commons, that linear though became an obbsession for me, i'll never forgive the little mug that i know took it, hav'nt seen him since, i hear he got a life membership to a certain lake
Back in the day mate there were 4, they were all moved over from the back lake when the back lake fish were being wholesale robbed for lakes over the Dartford tunnel. The common never intrested me, mates had it, i'd caught plenty of big commons, that linear though became an obbsession for me, i'll never forgive the little mug that i know took it, hav'nt seen him since, i hear he got a life membership to a certain lake
the fish in there were all mint i never saw a bad one my mate vinnie had a brace of 30+ commoms from the back lake within half an hour of each other they were truly immaculate fish the mirrors were a little harder to come by it's a shame the place has been ruined now it's a shadow of its former glory and as you say the fish were taken far and wide and as it would seem quite close by as well :( because of the size and depth of the water you always thought there was a chance of an uncaught monster in there it was a wild place though :)
That brackish salty water kept them mint mate
I lost a fish in there one day mate, i hooked it from the margins of the swamp, it went on an unstoppable 200 yard run through 3-4 big weedbeds & eventually straightened my hook in a snag well past the thumb.....
Left me shaking.....
I LOVED THE BROOK.....
Fished the back lake with my dad regular when i was 8 years old, getting on for 30 years ago......
Great lakes, cant bring myself to look over there now
I lost a fish in there one day mate, i hooked it from the margins of the swamp, it went on an unstoppable 200 yard run through 3-4 big weedbeds & eventually straightened my hook in a snag well past the thumb.....
Left me shaking.....
I LOVED THE BROOK.....
Fished the back lake with my dad regular when i was 8 years old, getting on for 30 years ago......
Great lakes, cant bring myself to look over there now
i go and have a wonder from time to time usualy on a sunday afternoon at first the new order security used to come and chase me off now they leave me alone a bit but it is heart breaking to see what has become of this once fantastic water not the prettyest place nor the safest but still a fantastic water and home to some real beutys and fond memorys :)
i go and have a wonder from time to time usualy on a sunday afternoon at first the new order security used to come and chase me off now they leave me alone a bit but it is heart breaking to see what has become of this once fantastic water not the prettyest place nor the safest but still a fantastic water and home to some real beutys and fond memorys :)
You know it mate, thats why i cant bring myself to go over there, i even look the other way when im coming back over the brigde LOL
You know it mate, thats why i cant bring myself to go over there, i even look the other way when im coming back over the brigde LOL
LOL but I guess that brings them flooding back too
Got the Times yesterday!
WOW
Paul_the_Bailiff
12-03-2009, 09:27
isn't it just!
The other one of 42 is equally impressive although not a brilliant shot
Paul_the_Bailiff
12-03-2009, 09:48
Yeah, but it's the history behind the Thurne fish. The 'Redmire' of Pike angling.
'Bout right there m8! Stunning fish at an incredible weight. Nice to know there's still some surprises and magic left in angling.
Blonde_Tim
12-03-2009, 10:49
just got AT on the strength of this thread. flipping heck. what an unbelievable fish. lost for words!
Blonde_Tim
12-03-2009, 10:56
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Capture of the new millenium so far - awesome and looks every ounce it's weight. The Thurne really is the equivalent of redmire, savay etc for piking.....
HappyCamper
12-03-2009, 13:26
42lber has just gone into DDAPS Sutton along with a couple of others around the same size from the netting at Lullingston castle....
Mahoooooosive crocs
Was there any fishing on Lullingstone? I have been past it, walked around it with friends a few years ago, scenic walking - I just don't remember any fishing??
Was there any fishing on Lullingstone? I have been past it, walked around it with friends a few years ago, scenic walking - I just don't remember any fishing??
Trout fishing mate
masterbaiter
12-03-2009, 16:50
Capture of the new millenium so far - awesome and looks every ounce it's weight. The Thurne really is the equivalent of redmire, savay etc for piking.....
you know what got me into fishing as a lad, it was seeing a huge friggin pike staring at me from the cover of AM in the early 90's. i was truly gobsmacked as a 8 year old. Never wanted to catch one of that size, but i was very impressed.
tonystone
14-03-2009, 08:22
mighty impressive fish that, I see the smaller 42lb'er only got a small snipet in the paper, should have been a bit of a bigger write up on that fish me thinks!!!
I cant imagine ever catching a fish of that size from my local river!!!!
the only problem with the 'other 42' is that it was also in the paper a couple of weeks earlier at a slightly lower weight. hence its small write-up I think.
I'll leave you to work out where?!?!
Re the DDAPS fish, they were under 40lb when introduced, slightly.
glasgowdan
20-04-2009, 10:40
Fish like this are great for angling as they get a whole load more people out on the bank hoping for one like it!
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